Why would they suffer from merchandise sales? I can still buy t-shirts and hats. Most people going to games do NOT buy merchandise at the arenas.
NHL’s Next TV Deal
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Why would they do that? Teams make a lot more money with their local deals than they do from the national deals. Why would a channel (that is not owned by the team or same parent company as the team) pay big money for local rights if anyone could get the games via a package? Never going to happen.
Then, how will the local carriers make money? Why would I pay for MSG Network if I can get the Rangers (and Isles and Devils) for free online? MSG is owned by the Rangers and why would they pay for the Isles and Devils rights?
So long as the bolded are not "exclusive". Very annoying that they load up Tuesday and Thursday, but have 1 game on Wednesday night league wide.
SJSharksfan39
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Fine, than adjust it so if I move to Navada, I can still see the Sharks because they aren't offered via cable.
Anisimovs AK
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As Hawk already said, they have nothing to do with each other. Local tv contract terms/stations differ by team, so how exactly would they be included in the National tv contract? The $20 million a year LA gets for their local tv contract is not included in the NBC or the Sportsnet contract. It was signed in 2016, long after both of those contracts had been penned
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SJSharksfan39
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But the Sharks games are blacked out on Center Ice. That was my original point. The regional blackouts (If they still continue that archaic policy) need to be redefined.
Anisimovs AK
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If you are in Vegas the Sharks wont be blacked unless they are playing Vegas, and then you could just watch it on your regular cable. The "local" blackout only blacks out the game in the SJ-SF market.
The hypothetical you gave was wanting to watch the Sharks if you moved to Nevada. You can easily do that, you just have to pay for it
SJSharksfan39
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You are right. I guess it's just Reno then. Reno blacks out Vegas and The Sharks.
Yes, there are dead-zones around the country. Too far away to have the nearest team on an RSN, but too close for Center-Ice. I believe there are parts of South Jersey that are like that. Can't get Rangers, Isles, Devils on an RSN as it is Flyers territory, but then you can't get the NYC area teams on Center Ice either. Same with parts of upstate NY. I could understand the issues when Center Ice first became available, but it has been 20 years and they should have been able to get it straightened out by now.
I think 600-650 is more realistic with NBC at %60, FOX or ESPN at 30% and I gonna guess ESPN + retains streaming rights. I know McKenzie and Friedman have speculated that early reports state that NBC/ESPN is the current favorite. But I still believe FOX is the wild card based on the fact FS1 is a struggling network and that FOX is more focused on live content OTA then traditional drama, sitcoms, or reality TV shows. I think FOX can easily outbid ESPN and offer for more content throughout the season. I feel like returning to ESPN wouldn’t be what the league hopes for. It would probably be a random Tuesday night on ESPN/ESPN 2 depending on what other events they have. It’s gonna be more difficult for NHL to find its footing on ESPN compared to 2004 when it was last on the network imo.
Djp
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ESPN would be the bad choice. NhHL would be a low priority.
In the fall
Thursday-Saturday college football, monday nfl, you have tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday...thry also have nba and I think soccer.
In the winter it’s college basketball and more nba
I can see ESPN + getting streaming rights and tv getting a game of the week and a playoff series in 1st round.
You have Fox, nbcsn, cbs sn are other cable sports stations
The could split it where NBC is weekend game and playoffs.
ESPN getting game of the week and first round playoff series.
Fox/FS1 getting 2 games a week and 2 playoff series in first two rounds
NBCSN getting 3 games a week and rest of playoffs.
Fox could tap into it regional Fox broadcasts similar to nbcsn tapping Comcast broadcasts.
They should market a late Saturday night game of the week that starts st 9pm or later. Most in mountain or west sites.
Djp
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I will use here to comment. Someone posted a now closed thread on some YouTube sports podcast commenting on tv ratings.
Here is a big problem. Not every market used is an immediate digital viewing data reporting market so data is skewed. Just teams playing in the games will have more viewers than what was reporting.
Here is a big problem. Not every market used is an immediate digital viewing data reporting market so data is skewed. Just teams playing in the games will have more viewers than what was reporting.
Hockeyholic
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Personally, I think the league should stay with NBC & have FOX as their other broadcast partner. Joe Buck play by play would be cool.
Just say no to ESPN. It's going down the tubes. Layoffs. Political stuff. Kellerman's comments.
Just say no to ESPN. It's going down the tubes. Layoffs. Political stuff. Kellerman's comments.
Joe Buck has admitted that hockey play-by-play would too difficult for him. My guess is Kenny Albert leaves NBC and becomes FOX’s #1 guy and Forslund becomes NBC’s #2.
I know it's a late reply, but CBS Sports could produce events for ViacomCBS-owned cable networks that are too high profile to air on CBSSN. If that network weren't included in an NHL deal with ViacomCBS, the Domestic Media Networks division could be. The Paramount Network is how I see CBS Sports returning to involvement with Major League Baseball, for example.
Ernie
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Bumping this because I saw an interesting quote from Comcast CEO Brian Roberts from a larger article on the Peacock streaming service and related issues.
A major reason cited for the growth in TV sports deals was the attempt by cable companies to slow cord cutting. If they no longer care because they can offset with streaming options, what does that do for the NHL's next TV deal?
It should be obvious by now that the NHL needs to get into streaming in a major way. Whether that's putting the content on an existing platform or rolling with their own, they need a solution for the next decade.
A major flaw with the league's current streaming options is the local blackouts. But these dynamics will also start affecting local tv deals as well. They need to start rolling these deals up and getting teams on a centralized streaming platform.
Asked if Comcast cares if consumers want cable TV or just streaming services, he said the company is "nearly" at the point where it doesn't care, before adding: "frankly, we're there."
A major reason cited for the growth in TV sports deals was the attempt by cable companies to slow cord cutting. If they no longer care because they can offset with streaming options, what does that do for the NHL's next TV deal?
It should be obvious by now that the NHL needs to get into streaming in a major way. Whether that's putting the content on an existing platform or rolling with their own, they need a solution for the next decade.
A major flaw with the league's current streaming options is the local blackouts. But these dynamics will also start affecting local tv deals as well. They need to start rolling these deals up and getting teams on a centralized streaming platform.
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NHL would be committing suicide taking deal with ESPN an organization that has spent 15 years pretending hockey didn't exist (They dont even show hockey highlights)
NHL games will get bumped to ESPN32 and they will cut away NHL playoff games to cover NBA pregame 2-3 hours before games begin
Also ESPN is still cutting costs whenever they can so you would likely end up with people doing hockey coverage who either hate sport or dont know a thing about it
NBC has been great to NHL
NHL games will get bumped to ESPN32 and they will cut away NHL playoff games to cover NBA pregame 2-3 hours before games begin
Also ESPN is still cutting costs whenever they can so you would likely end up with people doing hockey coverage who either hate sport or dont know a thing about it
NBC has been great to NHL
