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Smitty93 said:
Imagine telling Bob Kraft in March 2019 that his reputation was still going to suck in 6 years, and it won't have anything to do with spa massage parlors. That's what throwing your long-time head coach under the bus, hiring someone because of vacation vibes, and overall just being cheap will do to you.

It's quite the tour de force. And he's doing all of this while desperately trying to make the HOF. Robyn Glaser must have learned that "do the opposite" tactic from Bob's HOF campaign.
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I admit I am a little confused by this Glaser stuff. It's being reported she was leading way on cost cutting. Are we supposed to believe the Krafts knew nothing about that and instead wanted the team to spend more money? It doesn't add up to me. Unless Vrabel heard rumors about her and was only gonna take the job if she was a non factor. That's only scenario that makes sense.
 
The National said:
Yeah would have been nice to trade that pick. Who would you want at 4 if Sanders, Carter and Ward go in the first 3? Or trade back?

He’s not going til later rounds but I saw like a 10 second highlight clip of Isaiah Bond and him doing the Bond celebration after a TD. Kinda electric I can’t lie.
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And of course he made a fool of himself lol, good take :thumbu:
 
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Johnnyduke said:
I admit I am a little confused by this Glaser stuff. It's being reported she was leading way on cost cutting. Are we supposed to believe the Krafts knew nothing about that and instead wanted the team to spend more money? It doesn't add up to me. Unless Vrabel heard rumors about her and was only gonna take the job if she was a non factor. That's only scenario that makes sense.
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Here's my general view of it. We know Jonathan oversees day-to-day operations. Bob might set organizational strategy, but he's not managing anything directly. That's Jonathan. The Krafts have a number of different holdings, so there's likely a point person for them at each. Robyn Glaser appeared to be that person for the Patriots.

From the stories I've heard about Jonathan with the boards he's involved in, he's very much a classic cost-cutting businessman. So Glaser was just following his directive. She still deserves some level of blame because Jonathan might say something like "cut costs by X%", but he's certainly not going to review the line item budget himself. That's Glaser's responsibility.

So in terms of Bob being cheap, I'd say it's more that he could have directed Jonathan to adjust the team's financial strategy, but chose not to. The family owns 100% of the team, so it's not like he's got minority owners who want him to maximize shareholder value. Any profits go into his pockets, so it's up to him to determine how he values those profits versus team performance.

Really, it's probably the fact that they had 20 years of success, despite keeping costs low, and given what we've learned about his ego (in terms of Bob believing he deserves as much credit as Brady and Belichick), he probably thought he ran a perfectly designed organization, where the reality is that they likely won in spite of him.
 
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Smitty93 said:
Here's my general view of it. We know Jonathan oversees day-to-day operations. Bob might set organizational strategy, but he's not managing anything directly. That's Jonathan. The Krafts have a number of different holdings, so there's likely a point person for them at each. Robyn Glaser appeared to be that person for the Patriots.

From the stories I've heard about Jonathan with the boards he's involved in, he's very much a classic cost-cutting businessman. So Glaser was just following his directive. She still deserves some level of blame because Jonathan might say something like "cut costs by X%", but he's certainly not going to review the line item budget himself. That's Glaser's responsibility.

So in terms of Bob being cheap, I'd say it's more that he could have directed Jonathan to adjust the team's financial strategy, but chose not to. The family owns 100% of the team, so it's not like he's got minority owners who want him to maximize shareholder value. Any profits go into his pockets, so it's up to him to determine how he values those profits versus team performance.

Really, it's probably the fact that they had 20 years of success, despite keeping costs low, and given what we've learned about his ego (in terms of Bob believing he deserves as much credit as Brady and Belichick), he probably thought he ran a perfectly designed organization, where the reality is that they likely won in spite of him.
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That sounds disgustingly like Jerry Jones and Co.
 
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EverettMike said:
How many stories about how "the Pats did something super f***ing cheap and embarrassing" would it take for them to stop doing that?
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Robert Kraft is so freaking cheap I’m ecstatic reading this. There are some great stories detailing just how notoriously cheap he is unless he’s getting a hand job and he’s a big tipper
 
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yazmybaby said:
Kupp and Adams will be available.
Jets are in a pickle and will more than likely release him.

They would both be a huge upgrade vs our current WR's.
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Adams would be due $36 mill so no way chance he’s playing on that contract. But is NE going to be where he wants to land?
 
yazmybaby said:
Kupp and Adams will be available.
Jets are in a pickle and will more than likely release him.

They would both be a huge upgrade vs our current WR's.
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Meh.

Adams helped lead the charge to get McDaniels fired in Las Vegas... I'm not sure he'd voluntarily sign up to play for him again.

Cooper Kupp of 3-4 years ago would be a huge upgrade over our current WRs. Cooper Kupp of the last two years? I'm not so sure.
 
GatorMike said:
I'm not buying it. Aggressive at OT? Sure.

Aggressive at WR? For who?

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I've never really taken Schultz all that seriously. I'd guess his use of "aggressive" is an exaggeration. I'd bet it's more like they're very active in the WR trade market in seeing who's available, not that they're offering significant compensation to go make some massive trade.
 
Cooper Kupp is the ultimate Belichick WR - shifty inside guy, smart, absolute robot personality (seriously, his interviews make him look like there's barely a human being in there). McDaniels would absolutely love him, but we'll see if Vrabel wants change or continuity in the offense.
 
FRyan4426 said:
People need to stop thinking Cooper Kupp is still anywhere near a #1 WR. Injuries have totally smoked him.
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Kupp likely to get cut. LAR not going to pay him the money he's due this season. But, then it comes down to his options. And whether he or any WR would go to NE.
 
Nobody expects Cupp to be a #1. But he would be fantastic here. And he actually catches the ball unlike Polk and others. He would immediately be an asset.
 
Reading up on some post-combine coverage, apparently, Shadeur Sanders did not impress teams with the way he interviewed, and nearly every NFL source is telling reporters that Cam Ward won't get out of the Top 3, but then there's a gap between Ward and Sanders. One article stated that Sanders was a lot closer to being QB3 than QB1.

So, it sounds like there's now something like a greater than 90% chance that the top 3 picks are Carter, Ward, and Hunter, in some order.

That'd leave the Patriots in a position where they'd either be choosing flawed players at a premium position (Campbell, Graham, Johnson, McMillan, Williams, Walker...) or better overall prospects at a less premium position (Warren, Jeanty, Membou, etc.)

Buddy of mine made a pretty compelling case for Tyler Warren at #4 today.
 
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