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Pearson-Kopitar-Gaborik
Lucic-Carter-Toffoli
King-Prokhorkin/UFA-Brown
Mersch-Dowd-Andreoff
Nolan/Shore

Gravel-Doughty
Muzzin-Martinez
Forbort-Mcnabb
UFA

Quick
Greiss
 
they also played enormous roles in the two cup wins, all three of them. its not like Dean went for broke and then things went south and he has nothing to show for it. he put together a solid team that won two cups .

Absolutely. I could even see where Lombardi was coming from with Richards. I'm just saying, the fall of those 3, for various reasons, have had the largest impact on the roster choices that were made because of their falls, and where the team is right now. One led to the other, which led to another, which led to another. If Gagne doesn't get hurt, who knows if they even get Carter. Maybe they get someone else, maybe they don't trade that 1st, maybe they don't win it that year, who knows.

There may be an overall picture that Lombardi has in his mind, but the details change constantly. You try to keep up with everything, and ya do what ya gotta do.

I still believe losing 3 quality D and the one decent that replaced 1 of those (Sekera)...not a single replacement has been a quality defenseman.

Letting Mitchell go was done in part because Muzzin and Martinez were going to start getting paid more. It's the same thing with Lucic now. You have to think about Toffoli and Pearson next year, and how you get them to fit under the cap with Lucic, and Brown, and Gaborik, and Kopitar, and Carter. That's a lot of money, and something somewhere has to give.

If it's Muzzin/Doughty, Regehr/Voynov, and Martinez/Greene for the whole 14-15 season, that's basically the same defense that just won. McNabb is traded for, in part because Mitchell might have to go because Muzzin and Martinez are going to start making more money. He gets eased in, everyone know Regehr was going to retire last summer, and then McNabb replaces Regehr, and while there might be some stops and starts, the picture looks better with Voynov there. But, here we are.

As far as Gaborik? Arguably, he did lead the NHL in playoff goals for the 2014 Cup. Then gets the contract - deservedly. Jjust would have been better with a shorter term. I think many would have been pissed if they didn't sign him, after his performance and helping win that Cup.
He was playing better and was scoring when he got injured. I have a feeling he will come back and have a good year. I don't expect him to be great 2-3 years from now, of course. Not like he's a durable Jagr or Iginla, that goes till 40 yrs old. But no one else does.

Yeah, I can't imagine there's a GM in the league that would've let Gaborik walk after the 2014 playoffs. He had all the leverage, and Lombardi may have theoretically had a choice, but he didn't really have a choice.

I'm just saying, if Brown was still a 20+ goal guy in 13-14, maybe they don't get Gaborik. If Richards is still a 2nd line center, Carter is still probably on his right wing, and maybe they don't get Gaborik. Those two start to disappear though, they get Gaborik, he explodes, and then he gets a decent cap hit. Now Brown has the worst contract in the league at $6m, and Gaborik is in his mid 30's with a $5m cap hit.

It's a series of events under a cap. A happens, so you have to do B to balance out A. Then C happens, so B has to get balanced out, while still taking A into account. Then Q happens out of nowhere, and you have to do D. Then E happens...

Then you're coming off of 2 Cups in 3 years, and feel like you have to keep it going, so you do stuff. As life has a way of going sometimes, the harder you try to prevent something, you end up where you would've been anyway. If they don't trade for Sekera or Lucic, they may still have just 5 playoff games and 1 win in 2 years. Human nature being what it is sometimes, you feel like you have to do something. Lombardi tries to do something, and it's looking more and more like the worst case scenario will end up happening. No Sekera, no Lucic, and out two 1st round picks. If he doesn't try though, he's wasting 2 important years for the core.

Everyone can always second guess a GM though. It's the same thing as a young team on the way of being lovable. Then they win, and they're the bad guy. When a GM has all sorts of cap space, and draft picks, and young assets, the world is their oyster. Then he wins, and the choices necessitated by a hard cap get much more difficult.
 
Pearson-Kopitar-Gaborik
Lucic-Carter-Toffoli
King-Prokhorkin/UFA-Brown
Mersch-Dowd-Andreoff
Nolan/Shore

Gravel-Doughty
Muzzin-Martinez
Forbort-Mcnabb
UFA

Quick
Greiss

Pearson-Kopitar-Gaborik- Speed,Playmaking,Sniper

Lucic-Carter-Toffoli- Physicality-Speed/Sniper,Sniper

Brown-Prokhorkin-Versteeg- Physicality-Unknown-Speed/Scorer

Andreoff-Dowd-Shore- All 3 are defensive studs, with good/great puck control

Doughty-McNabb- top 5 player, physicality..This is going to continue guys so get use to it

Gravel-Muzzin- Willie Mitchell lite,the corsi god

Martinez-Greene- the ideal 3rd pairing if Greene returns to form if not insert Forbort here

Forbort 7th defenseman

Quick
someone who won't play much

on paper the Bottom 6 looks much improved, the D will hopefully be much better but lets see who we get for the D core in the offseason..... Lets remember we earned 102 points and then were trounced in the 1st because our defense did us in but lets hope that D can either be improved or what we have in Gravel/Forbort are ready t step in and earn their stripes..
 
Its a shame Porky won't come over, wasn't he one of the top scorers in the KHL? I know that wouldn't directly translate to the NHL (just look at Kevin Dallman), but it wouldn't hurt to have him come over and see what he can do. I guess that untaxed salary over there is just too sweet. The bottom 6 is going to be in shambles unless someone from Ontario steps up.
 
Ladd kopitar gaborik
brown Carter Toffoli
Mersch dowd king
clifford andreoff nolan

doughty muzzin
pysyk martinez
mcnabb greene
gravel/forbort

quick bryzolov

trade pearson for pysyk sign ladd cheaper then lucic
 
I know its probably already been discussed but whats the deal with Nicolai Prokhorkin????
From everything i've read and keep reading the guys is an absolute stud that could step right in as the 3C and gives us everything we've been looking for....
I remember the story being he wanted to be guaranteed a starting spot or something of the sort but we sure could duse his talents now...is it too late ?????

The guy doesn't want to play in the NHL. He gets to stay in Russia where he is a star, and make a lot of money.
 
Ladd kopitar gaborik
brown Carter Toffoli
Mersch dowd king
clifford andreoff nolan

doughty muzzin
pysyk martinez
mcnabb greene
gravel/forbort

quick bryzolov

trade pearson for pysyk sign ladd cheaper then lucic

How much cheaper would Ladd be though? $500,000 less? A million less? My guess is he signs somewhere on a 5-6 year deal at $6 million.
 
if vanilla is cheap and fits Ill take vanilla

What makes you think Ladd will be even relatively cheap?

I can imagine a lot of teams will pass on Lucic and go for ladd or go for him as a backup plan

Ladd is all of the big, none of the intimidating of Looch. He'll also be 31 this year, and his only season breaking 60 points appears to be the outlier (WPG's playoff year).

I don't hate him and he'd be a good fit for "Kings hockey" in general but he's not going to be a cheap enough option imo.
 
What makes you think Ladd will be even relatively cheap?

I can imagine a lot of teams will pass on Lucic and go for ladd or go for him as a backup plan

lucic is the better player more physical worth more
i think ladd is slowing down in comparison
I also think Ladd signs cheaper because he wants another shot at a cup and la would give him one. No contender has a ton of space.
 
lucic is the better player more physical worth more
i think ladd is slowing down in comparison
I also think Ladd signs cheaper because he wants another shot at a cup and la would give him one. No contender has a ton of space.

I agree with that. I don't think anyone is going to back the truck up for him, but I don't see a world in which he's much cheaper than Lucic is all. Looch will set the market for a powerforward type.

Ladd has also never made more than 4.5 million a year, so I'm sure he's looking for a security contract here too, as he's made 30 mil in his career and this contract stands to double his earnings
 

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