Next Sharks captain

[Star Platinum]

Right or wrong, Mario definitely has his teammates' respect

 

[DG93]

Mario seems like the obvious choice here. Always sounds like he's been the heart of the team when they talk about him on and off the ice.

I'd say Toffoli makes more sense as he's signed for another 3 years on top of being great with the young guys (as per the sleepover lol)

 

[Shark Finn]

I probably wouldn't name a captain for next season. The team has been without a captain on the ice for a while already. It will be Celebrini in due time, obviously. Maybe name him the captain when if he's extended, as was pointed out earlier. Toffoli doesn't strike me as a captain, even if he's a veteran signed for three more years, but he's probably the most likely candidate, along with Ferraro (depending on his future with the team).

 

[Jargon]

I think they’ve done a lot of things to shelter Celebrini from having to be the savior, so I suspect they’ll keep doing that and hold off giving him the captaincy. I see Toffoli or Ferraro. Toffoli has the respect, the history of success and the leadership qualities to be a transitory captain. He’s also staying here his whole contract. Ferraro, who knows.

And Goodrow, as someone else pointed out, seems generally annoyed, like always. He seems like a completely different dude than when he was first here.

 

[matt trick]

Might go with Celebrini, Ferraro, and Tofollli as A’s. Wennberg as the alternate alternate. Promote Celebrini the following year. Maybe you give Goody one, but doesn’t seem necessary to me.

 

[SharksFan1992]

Pretty obvious it will go to Celebrini in time.

 

[Barrie22]

Pretty obvious it will go to Celebrini in time.

Then give it to him now, so he can lead the team how he wants now, and he can grow with the team.

 

[gaucholoco3]

Then give it to him now, so he can lead the team how he wants now, and he can grow with the team.

I agree. Plus giving it to him at the start of the season would break McDavid’s record as being the youngest captain ever.

 

[Cas]

Noah Gregor, scorer of timely hat tricks.

 

[SjMilhouse]

Just make Celebrini captain and move on. No reason to overcomplicate it and he's clearly the leader of the team even at 18

Or if you want to be lame give him an A with no captain and make him captain the following year. It's not like he won't have a strong supporting cast of vets to help

 

[wickedwitch]

Just make Celebrini captain and move on. No reason to overcomplicate it and he's clearly the leader of the team even at 18

Is he? Or is he the best player who is also hard working? Because having those qualities is different from being "the leader" of a team.

 

[gaucholoco3]

Is he? Or is he the best player who is also hard working? Because having those qualities is different from being "the leader" of a team.

He is absolutely the leader on the team that players respect and look to. Nobody works harder than him. He already had the respect and deference of all the vets.

 

[weastern bias]

I don't care how good you are at your craft, if a 19 year old tried to give me a motivational speech when I'm falling on hard times, given his lack of lived experience, my immediate first thought is going to be "don't you have some homework to do?"

Children are not inspiring leaders because adults don't take them seriously, it's just human nature

In some cases it even works against them in the long run, if anyone saw the clip of McDavid throwing a temper tantrum in the locker room after the Oilers went down 3-0 in the finals you saw that talent does not make someone an inspirational leader, you saw a grown man throwing a fit and screaming which conveyed absolutely nothing but anger, anger everyone else already felt

Leadership skills are learned through life experience and are a rare part of a certain kind of personality, teenage boys are not leaders of men

 

[OrrNumber4]

I don't care how good you are at your craft, if a 19 year old tried to give me a motivational speech when I'm falling on hard times, given his lack of lived experience, my immediate first thought is going to be "don't you have some homework to do?"

Children are not inspiring leaders because adults don't take them seriously, it's just human nature

In some cases it even works against them in the long run, if anyone saw the clip of McDavid throwing a temper tantrum in the locker room after the Oilers went down 3-0 in the finals you saw that talent does not make someone an inspirational leader, you saw a grown man throwing a fit and screaming which conveyed absolutely nothing but anger, anger everyone else already felt

Leadership skills are learned through life experience and are a rare part of a certain kind of personality, teenage boys are not leaders of men

Beautiful post. I would add a little bit; there are exceptions to this rule (Alexander the Great, etc.).

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't care how good you are at your craft, if a 19 year old tried to give me a motivational speech when I'm falling on hard times, given his lack of lived experience, my immediate first thought is going to be "don't you have some homework to do?"

Children are not inspiring leaders because adults don't take them seriously, it's just human nature

In some cases it even works against them in the long run, if anyone saw the clip of McDavid throwing a temper tantrum in the locker room after the Oilers went down 3-0 in the finals you saw that talent does not make someone an inspirational leader, you saw a grown man throwing a fit and screaming which conveyed absolutely nothing but anger, anger everyone else already felt

Leadership skills are learned through life experience and are a rare part of a certain kind of personality, teenage boys are not leaders of men

That speaks more to your lack of maturity than it does to that 19 year old's ability to lead a team.

 

[gaucholoco3]

I don't care how good you are at your craft, if a 19 year old tried to give me a motivational speech when I'm falling on hard times, given his lack of lived experience, my immediate first thought is going to be "don't you have some homework to do?"

Children are not inspiring leaders because adults don't take them seriously, it's just human nature

In some cases it even works against them in the long run, if anyone saw the clip of McDavid throwing a temper tantrum in the locker room after the Oilers went down 3-0 in the finals you saw that talent does not make someone an inspirational leader, you saw a grown man throwing a fit and screaming which conveyed absolutely nothing but anger, anger everyone else already felt

Leadership skills are learned through life experience and are a rare part of a certain kind of personality, teenage boys are not leaders of men

Maybe if there was a player who had experience as a captain that was here for more than next year I would buy this argument. Celebrini is a different person and leader than McDavid. I don’t think his association with the warriors and the leaders they have is being discussed enough. He might be a kid but he probably has more experience being around a winning professional sports organization than any other option. Toffoli has experience but has bounced around so many organizations that he would not have the experience needed to lead a team.

I just don’t buy the argument against Celebrini as anything other than preconceived bias against younger players being captain.

 

[weastern bias]

That speaks more to your lack of maturity than it does to that 19 year old's ability to lead a team.

It's not the kid's fault, but that's simply how most adult men feel when spoken to authoritatively by a younger colleague, and athletes are typical

They aren't going to look at a fresh-faced howdie-doodie and think, "wow, he's so wise," they're going to be annoyed that some kid is trying to tell him how the world works when one of them is going to go home to his family and take care of real responsibilities while the other is going back to his bachelor pad to play video games at the end of their respective days, and it's unreasonable to expect them to act otherwise

 

[Cas]

Beautiful post. I would add a little bit; there are exceptions to this rule (Alexander the Great, etc.).

I was thinking about Anthony Eden (as one does, of course), but their sort are kind of the exceptions.

Celebrini is also obviously exceptional, but I don't see any reason to give him any more pressure than he needs right now.

I also don't actually think captains really matter very much.

 

[weastern bias]

Maybe if there was a player who had experience as a captain that was here for more than next year I would buy this argument. Celebrini is a different person and leader than McDavid. I don’t think his association with the warriors and the leaders they have is being discussed enough. He might be a kid but he probably has more experience being around a winning professional sports organization than any other option. Toffoli has experience but has bounced around so many organizations that he would not have the experience needed to lead a team.

I just don’t buy the argument against Celebrini as anything other than preconceived bias against younger players being captain.

Macklin was living full time at schools in Minnesota, Chicago and Boston during the recent run of the Warriors success, the one year he spent in San Jose in 2020 the Warriors were the worst team in the NBA

Macklin isn't his dad, I think the narrative of "he spent all this time around the Warriors legends" is pretty overblown, his success is largely due to how special and driven he is as an athlete and a talent, he wasn't exactly picking Steph Curry's brain and taking notes on how to lead from Draymond Green, he was a student athlete traveling all over the country

 

[gaucholoco3]

It's not the kid's fault, but that's simply how most adult men feel when spoken to authoritatively by a younger colleague, and athletes are typical

They aren't going to look at a fresh-faced howdie-doodie and think, "wow, he's so wise," they're going to be annoyed that some kid is trying to tell him how the world works when one of them is going to go home to his family and take care of real responsibilities while the other is going back to his bachelor pad to play video games at the end of their respective days, and it's unreasonable to expect them to act otherwise

This is not some teenager in the workplace. This is the best player on the team who executes all the details asked by the coaches better than any other player. He plays the right way and includes teammates. In a team sport of a mostly young team there is no concern that anyone would not respect Celebrini. It is obvious to them that he is the future of the franchise. Just look at how they literally bought out Knyzhov just because he had Celebrini’s number. If a vet doesn’t like him as captain he can be shown the door.

 

[gaucholoco3]

Macklin was living full time at schools in Minnesota, Chicago and Boston during the recent run of the Warriors success, the one year he spent in San Jose in 2020 the Warriors were the worst team in the NBA

Macklin isn't his dad, I think the narrative of "he spent all this time around the Warriors legends" is pretty overblown, his success is largely due to how special and driven he is as an athlete and a talent, he wasn't exactly picking Steph Curry's brain and taking notes on how to lead from Draymond Green, he was a student athlete traveling all over the country

How many players on the team when faced with a problem as captain can pick up the phone and call Draymond or Curry and expect an answer. Yes he wasn’t in the locker room but he knows more about how that organization was run than any other player on the team.

Look if Couture was still healthy or Hertl still on the team then I could see the argument. I just don’t see anyone currently with the organization who should be captain over him. Especially just because he is not old enough. I actually think Toffoli would decline saying it’s not his team. The only way not to give it to him is have no C for a year. Which is just dumb and delaying the inevitable. It’s not like the team is expecting to accomplish anything of note next season.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

It's not the kid's fault, but that's simply how most adult men feel when spoken to authoritatively by a younger colleague, and athletes are typical

They aren't going to look at a fresh-faced howdie-doodie and think, "wow, he's so wise," they're going to be annoyed that some kid is trying to tell him how the world works when one of them is going to go home to his family and take care of real responsibilities while the other is going back to his bachelor pad to play video games at the end of their respective days, and it's unreasonable to expect them to act otherwise

That’s not how most elite athletes feel though.

 

[weastern bias]

That’s not how most elite athletes feel though.

Pro athletes, notoriously analytical and unemotional human beings

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Pro athletes, notoriously analytical and unemotional human beings

They are also by and large coachable by coaches that never played the game at the highest level and other teammates and professionals fairly constantly.

 

[slocal]

Wait, so now captains in pro sports need to be able to give relationship, childcare, tax, general life advice to their team mates? What?

Pro athletes live in a bubble. They are pampered by the team and their WAGs. They only hit the real world once they stop playing.