News & Notes Thread Part VI: "Where the Hell is the News Thread?" Editon

[tomdundo]

It would have been cool to have Ward's AHL stint line up with the Checkers games in Raleigh. But whatever, I'm not too upset about it.

 

[What the Faulk]

I think Peters is the one gone also and doubt anyone takes him. Back during his "hot streak" while Khodobin was out, people were saying "trade the guys that get's the most in return" and my view back then was that you keep Khodobin as he gives the team the best chance at winning..and at best, Peter's would return a late round pick or marginal NHLr. I don't think he had nearly as much value as some thought he did. If JR can get anything for him, that would be great. If not, so be it.

I was one of those guys, back when Khudobin only had a handful of games at the NHL level. He still doesn't have much, but he's just further added to his resume with strong play. I still think you have to keep Peters if Khudobin wants an amount that's just not doable, and I think you have to get him under contract before you move Peters, or else you give him all the leverage.

But at one point, before Edmonton got Scrivens, I think I remember they seriously gave consideration to trading for Peters, but JR wanted too much. Now his value has pretty much bottomed out.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I was one of those guys, back when Khudobin only had a handful of games at the NHL level. He still doesn't have much, but he's just further added to his resume with strong play. I still think you have to keep Peters if Khudobin wants an amount that's just not doable, and I think you have to get him under contract before you move Peters, or else you give him all the leverage.

But at one point, before Edmonton got Scrivens, I think I remember they seriously gave consideration to trading for Peters, but JR wanted too much. Now his value has pretty much bottomed out.

Problem is, Peter's resume of "playing well" was only a handful of games also. The rest of his resume was pretty weak and terribly inconsistent. I don't have any sort of inside information, but I find it difficult to believe that GMs would want Peters as a starting goalie based on a 10 game hot streak, based on all of his previous history. Even if someone like Edmonton did want him, I doubt they were going to give up much value for him.

Scrivens who was significantly better in the AHL and better in the NHL only got a 3rd round pick. If the Canes could have gotten even a 5th for Peters, I'd have been surprised.

 

[DaleCooper]

Someone Photoshop Ward's face onto this guy: http://www.theonion.com/articles/horrified-man-suddenly-realizes-hes-putting-down-r,35102/

 

[tarheelhockey]

Someone Photoshop Ward's face onto this guy: http://www.theonion.com/articles/horrified-man-suddenly-realizes-hes-putting-down-r,35102/

Wow, someone did a lot of research on Charlotte to write that article.

 

[TheOllieC]

JR on SN. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/hc-noon-ward-in-eye-of-hurricanes/

"Semin is a great player when he wants to play"

He even admitted we overused Ward

On goalies: "I wouldn't put on on waivers, I know there's enough interest in any one of the three."

 

[Novacane]

JR on SN. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/hc-noon-ward-in-eye-of-hurricanes/

"Semin is a great player when he wants to play"

He even admitted we overused Ward

On goalies: "I wouldn't put on on waivers, I know there's enough interest in any one of the three."

And also about what I was saying about Eric all along.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

And also about what I was saying about Eric all along.

For some reason, I can't see the video. What did he say?

 

[Novacane]

For some reason, I can't see the video. What did he say?

Question: "Hey Jimmy, what about Eric Staal? You know, people say he started off so slow and yet, now you watch him against Columbus he was a man amongst boys ....(blah blah blah)... Has the Olympic snub bothered him or is he just a guy that goes in spurts?"

Answer: "Nope. He had a real serious injury at the World Championships. I don't think anybody's put enough stock in that. He's a guy that doesn't like to miss games, he never talks when he's hurt. Never uses it as an excuse. And he wanted to start at the same time as everybody but, if we could really get the whole story out of him I'm sure he'd tell you he probably wasn't ready to start training camp on time and probably should have taken a little longer and to me that's the reason he had a slow first half."



That's all I'm going to post on the matter. I don't feel like diving deep into this again. I shouldn't have brought it up to begin with.

 

[What the Faulk]

Problem is, Peter's resume of "playing well" was only a handful of games also. The rest of his resume was pretty weak and terribly inconsistent. I don't have any sort of inside information, but I find it difficult to believe that GMs would want Peters as a starting goalie based on a 10 game hot streak, based on all of his previous history. Even if someone like Edmonton did want him, I doubt they were going to give up much value for him.

Scrivens who was significantly better in the AHL and better in the NHL only got a 3rd round pick. If the Canes could have gotten even a 5th for Peters, I'd have been surprised.

I forgot where I saw it, but supposedly Edmonton wanted Peters for a 3rd but JR was pushing for a 2nd. Just did a quick search, and it was Garrioch that first reported it, but offered no terms. I swear I read that somewhere though, but who knows how accurate it was.

To be honest, kicking the tires on Peters isn't the worst choice in the world for a desperate team. He's a UFA after this year if it doesn't work out, and he'd be unlikely to command a big raise if he did.

EDIT: Just listened to JR's interview. At least he said he expected more scoring from Jordan, but then went on to defend him for not scoring and being a plus player, other team's top lines, etc.

Also, it's really grating how he refuses to learn how to pronounce people's name. He dropped a Cordoban more than a few times, yet the SN guys asked him how to pronounce Sekera.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Question: "Hey Jimmy, what about Eric Staal? You know, people say he started off so slow and yet, now you watch him against Columbus he was a man amongst boys ....(blah blah blah)... Has the Olympic snub bothered him or is he just a guy that goes in spurts?"

Answer: "Nope. He had a real serious injury at the World Championships. I don't think anybody's put enough stock in that. He's a guy that doesn't like to miss games, he never talks when he's hurt. Never uses it as an excuse. And he wanted to start at the same time as everybody but, if we could really get the whole story out of him I'm sure he'd tell you he probably wasn't ready to start training camp on time and probably should have taken a little longer and to me that's the reason he had a slow first half."



That's all I'm going to post on the matter. I don't feel like diving deep into this again. I shouldn't have brought it up to begin with.

Ok, thanks. I couldn't watch the video so just wanted to know what he said.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

To be honest, kicking the tires on Peters isn't the worst choice in the world for a desperate team. He's a UFA after this year if it doesn't work out, and he'd be unlikely to command a big raise if he did.

True, but I wouldn't want to give up much to kick those tires. A late round pick or something like that would be fine, but more than that, I think I'd pass.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

That JR interview was hard to listen to. For a guy that watches every game, he sure does sound like a guy that goes by the scoresheet. Putting way too much emphasis on +/-, ragging on certain players for not "showing up" while making excuses for others. And then there's the issue of having multiple players not live up to the contract he gave them, but putting the blame on the player rather than realizing he might have overpaid.

 

[cptjeff]

A picture of the Semin bobblehead has been released. Or should that be the Semin bobbleteeth?

I also like how they were very careful to make sure the socks were carefully detailed and textured to match the knit socks that the NHL hasn't worn since 2007.

 

[bleedgreen]

Surprised no one mentioned it, but he flat out says sekera is our top defenseman. The way he's played I guess it isn't really a shock. Interesting how it's going to play out with faulks contract. If it stays this way sekera will have to get more than Faulk, and Faulk is in line to make some coin. Obviously not a pressing issue right now, but it'll be interesting to see how that will play out.

That's looking like one of the better trades of jr's career so far. We'll see if sekera can be the guy he's been long term, how huge is it if he can?

He also says they either have to or are looking at figuring out the goalie situation by the deadline. I think it's peters on his way out, if we are trying to make the playoffs the best two have to play and I don't see how peters is over ward.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

A picture of the Semin bobblehead has been released. Or should that be the Semin bobbleteeth?

I also like how they were very careful to make sure the socks were carefully detailed and textured to match the knit socks that the NHL hasn't worn since 2007.

Since when does Mick Jagger play for the Canes?

 

[Finnish Jerk Train]

Since when does Mick Jagger play for the Canes?

Actually I think they did a better job with resemblance to the player than we usually see. Better than the Jordan Staal one a few weeks ago, for instance.

I have more bobbleheads than I care to admit (if I do, I'll never have another girlfriend for the rest of my life), but I'm sure I'll end up with one of these as well. I have no idea what to do with them... the last several times I've gotten one, they've gone straight into my closet.

 

[Stickpucker]

That JR interview was hard to listen to. For a guy that watches every game, he sure does sound like a guy that goes by the scoresheet. Putting way too much emphasis on +/-, ragging on certain players for not "showing up" while making excuses for others. And then there's the issue of having multiple players not live up to the contract he gave them, but putting the blame on the player rather than realizing he might have overpaid.

Agreed.

 

[Stickpucker]

I found this interesting while looking over a MacKinnon thread...

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=1995&year_max=2014&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=18&age_max=18&birth_country=&franch_id=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=S&handed=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=points

 

[What the Faulk]

Wow, would have thought more players played in the NHL at 18.

Also noticed Jordan, Malhotra, and Dvorak on that list.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Wow, would have thought more players played in the NHL at 18.

Also noticed Jordan, Malhotra, and Dvorak on that list.

The really odd thing is seeing Kyle McLaren on the list.

I hadn't realized how much more prolific 18-y/os were getting. I remember when Jeff Friesen was just unbelievable at that age, but now it's basically an annual thing to see someone blow his numbers away.

 

[DaveG]

I hadn't realized how much more prolific 18-y/os were getting. I remember when Jeff Friesen was just unbelievable at that age, but now it's basically an annual thing to see someone blow his numbers away.

Lockout season though, so yeah in total numbers, but in points per game it's still a pretty tough group to crack, though as you said it's been more and more in recent years, Kovalchuk, Nash, and Bergeron are the only ones that did it before the lockout:

Kovalchuk
Nash
Bergeron
Crosby
Jordan Staal
Gagner
Stamkos
Skinner
RNH
Galchenyuk
MacKinnon (so far)

oddly enough, it's only been one per year to do it too, though Nichushkin is close enough that he could break that trend this season.

FWIW Skinner's #4 in PPG on that list behind Crosby (duh), Kovalchuk, and RNH, and neither Kovalchuk or RNH played the full season whereas Skinner and Crosby did.

Skinner, Gagner, and Bergeron are the only 3 that weren't top 3 picks in their draft years, though, again, Nichushkin's damn close.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

So in other news...Boychuk records his 2nd hat trick in last 3 games. A shame he isn't getting a bigger chance here, especially because he looked good while up here, but I know it's because of the 9 game limit for waiver exemption (whether we agree with that or not).

http://ihockey.blogspot.com/2014/02/boychuk-steals-spotlight-from-ward-in.html?spref=tw

 

[Clark Gillies]

So in other news...Boychuk records his 2nd hat trick in last 3 games. A shame he isn't getting a bigger chance here, especially because he looked good while up here, but I know it's because of the 9 game limit for waiver exemption (whether we agree with that or not).

http://ihockey.blogspot.com/2014/02/boychuk-steals-spotlight-from-ward-in.html?spref=tw

Agreed - His last stint up here he was playing with a fire that I hadn't seen before in his his previous call-ups, playing like he wanted to stay and in reality he should have if it was based solely on his play.

 

[What the Faulk]

Play new-Boychuk with Eric and Semin for 82 games and this year's version of Tlusty with Eric and Semin for 82 games and I'm not sure we see a difference.