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spockBokk
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PuckPedia (normally reliable - called the Kotkaniemi extension aav correctly and had the Bear re-signing first) is saying the Canes have now also placed Pacioretty on LTIR:
There must not be any takers for Bear.
If this is true, then then they have around $6.9M in space, after adding Stepan. They still only would need to send down a player or 2 to activate Pacioretty. Pretty good position to be in all things considered.
There must not be any takers for Bear.
If this is true, then then they have around $6.9M in space, after adding Stepan. They still only would need to send down a player or 2 to activate Pacioretty. Pretty good position to be in all things considered.
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The Canes mentioned moving Pacioretty to LTIR in their Opening Night Roster announcement, so PuckPedia would be correct.
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Nikishin Go Boom
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i guess they are going to LTIR Patches to start with. 190k over the cap if not.
edit: nvm those posts were added after was typing mine.
edit: nvm those posts were added after was typing mine.
Daeavorn
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Aho did an interview for a finnish website. Talks about how he hired a shooting coach to help improve his shot. Not a bad piece.
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Jääkiekko | Sebastian Aho on jo yksi kaikkein parhaimmista – hän kertoo, mitä on tehnyt ollakseen vieläkin parempi
Sebastian Ahon Carolina Hurricanes on kuulunut kahdella kaudella NHL:n kolmen parhaan joukkoon runkosarjassa, mutta pudotuspelimenestys on jäänyt puuttumaan.
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cptjeff
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On another note, Google's finnish translations really seem to be getting a lot better.Aho did an interview for a finnish website. Talks about how he hired a shooting coach to help improve his shot. Not a bad piece.
Jääkiekko | Sebastian Aho on jo yksi kaikkein parhaimmista – hän kertoo, mitä on tehnyt ollakseen vieläkin parempi
Sebastian Ahon Carolina Hurricanes on kuulunut kahdella kaudella NHL:n kolmen parhaan joukkoon runkosarjassa, mutta pudotuspelimenestys on jäänyt puuttumaan.
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Drury not being on the opening night roster. I mean I get it, there's only so many spots, but he should get the first callup for a forward. I'm not sure he's got anything to prove in the A anymore and you don't want him getting stagnant.
cptjeff
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I'm holding out hope that they can get a Bear trade worked out and bring him up imminently. And while I like Stepan well enough, I don't think I would have brought him in over keeping Drury. Drury's the better player at this point, and I don't think it's particularly close.
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Who knows how long Drury will be down, but it could be similar to Jarvis last year but with greater flexibility. Jarvis had to wait his turn to get in the lineup but didn't have the AHL option. Drury can potentially wait for an injury or poor play, but gets to play games at a level that's not a total joke to him like the WHL would have been for Jarvis. I still feel pretty confident he'll be up sometime soon.
tarheelhockey
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If anyone's interested in the ticket dynamics at PNC this season, here's a good way to look at it. This is the current ticket availability for probably the lowest-demand game of the season, Ottawa in late February. I'm going to go ahead and assume that not a lot of people have rushed to buy advance tickets for that game, so this is a sort of heat-map of where tickets have and have-not been sold this season.
There's a lot to take in here. For example, there are a lot of unsold seats behind the Canes-shoot-twice net and behind the Canes bench. I'm guessing that's an outcome of STMs settling into lower-priced sections, which means non-STMs are far more likely to get hit with the triple-whammy of being forced into an expensive section, paying full retail price, and getting hit with absurd fees. In this scenario, a full STM sitting in 111 T would pay $67+tax, while a single-game buyer sitting in an identical seat directly across in 127 T would pay $113.80+tax. That dynamic explains the patterning, and it also explains why the Canes want it that way.
But what I really find interesting is that this map shows us exactly where the scalpers are. The pink lines are tickets for resale. I assume that virtually none of them have been sold yet, so this is almost like a directory of PNC Arena's professional scalpers. The 2-4 seat blips are nothing remarkable, just STM trying to offload the worst game on the schedule. But look how many complete rows are for sale... no normal STM is buying 15 seats in the nosebleeds, that's organized scalping in one way or another. And it's noticeable that many of those pink rows are in perfect alignment, like someone just said "give me all your Row Hs".
Next time you see a game against a big-market team, look for that corner to the left of the penalty box that's always overrun by visiting fans. Nearly half those seats are blocked off by scalpers who are trying to sell 6-8 seats in a block. That explains a lot. Likewise, Section 303 is directly behind the visiting bench and heavily inundated with long rows of scalper seats.
That, in a nutshell, is why it's so damn hard to drown out the Rangers/Bruins/Pens fans during the playoffs. No matter what hijinks they might play with ZIP codes and early releases, the fact is that there are going to be scalpers serving up entire blocks to people who are willing to throw all their expendable cash at a single game, because they know they won't be coming back. So you get Canes fans paying $150 for nosebleeds in 303 and find themselves in the middle of 40 Rangers fans.
There's a lot to take in here. For example, there are a lot of unsold seats behind the Canes-shoot-twice net and behind the Canes bench. I'm guessing that's an outcome of STMs settling into lower-priced sections, which means non-STMs are far more likely to get hit with the triple-whammy of being forced into an expensive section, paying full retail price, and getting hit with absurd fees. In this scenario, a full STM sitting in 111 T would pay $67+tax, while a single-game buyer sitting in an identical seat directly across in 127 T would pay $113.80+tax. That dynamic explains the patterning, and it also explains why the Canes want it that way.
But what I really find interesting is that this map shows us exactly where the scalpers are. The pink lines are tickets for resale. I assume that virtually none of them have been sold yet, so this is almost like a directory of PNC Arena's professional scalpers. The 2-4 seat blips are nothing remarkable, just STM trying to offload the worst game on the schedule. But look how many complete rows are for sale... no normal STM is buying 15 seats in the nosebleeds, that's organized scalping in one way or another. And it's noticeable that many of those pink rows are in perfect alignment, like someone just said "give me all your Row Hs".
Next time you see a game against a big-market team, look for that corner to the left of the penalty box that's always overrun by visiting fans. Nearly half those seats are blocked off by scalpers who are trying to sell 6-8 seats in a block. That explains a lot. Likewise, Section 303 is directly behind the visiting bench and heavily inundated with long rows of scalper seats.
That, in a nutshell, is why it's so damn hard to drown out the Rangers/Bruins/Pens fans during the playoffs. No matter what hijinks they might play with ZIP codes and early releases, the fact is that there are going to be scalpers serving up entire blocks to people who are willing to throw all their expendable cash at a single game, because they know they won't be coming back. So you get Canes fans paying $150 for nosebleeds in 303 and find themselves in the middle of 40 Rangers fans.
Vagrant
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drury should ask for a trade. I wouldn't blame him one iota if he did. he's torched every league he's played in by standards of his age and they go out and resign stepan to block him when the net contribution probably wouldn't be excessive in one direction or another. let the kid play.
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This team has been really lucky in the last few years not to have had even more injuries Than they did…. We have seemingly had years like Vegas last year where everyone seems to get hurt and hurt for long chunks of time. I shudder to think of those dark dark dark years where waaaaaaaaay too many career minor leaguers got to make their Nhl debuts with us and play too many games….
But overall we have been relatively healthy and relatively lucky we didn’t have major major outages for multiple key players on the team the last few years…..…. You can overcome one key loss… but losing multiple key core guys for longer stretches can essentially tank your season if you don’t have a lot of depth that can play up…
Not ignoring what happened with our goalies last year or losing TDA for a key stretch or whatever happened to Bear post Covid or just having chunks of guys down with Covid at all and still playing instead of cancelling…. It hurts we lost Patches before he even got a preseason game in….incredibly unlucky but at the same time, we traded for an older player with some injury history… I attribute that more to adding a few older players and our young guys a year older etc…. We have gone from one of the youngest teams to more mid to older teams in the league…. Loooooooooooooooooooong, rambling way of saying that we need as much depth as humanly possible as I worry this year more than ever before about health and losing some guys, even more guys than what we already lost with Patches….
Stepan embraced the extra forward role and doing whatever Rod asked of him, including being ok with not playing full time. He was a consummate pro last year coming out of the press box, sitting for stretches and being positive and being productive when he did get his shot…. I feel we reaallly are going to need him this year as well as Drury and Noesen and likely a few other forward call ups from Chicago before the season is over…. Glad we have Stepan on the team. He isn’t blocking Drury…. Drury absolutely will still play…. And assuming he shows he can take care of business and play the right way and play a 200 foot game, Drury likely will play more than Stepan by the end of the year if last season is any indication and Drury works his way into a full time spot ala Jarvis from last season…
I think there may be a bit of shuffling of the deck early in the first few weeks of the season to define the pecking order and see who can earn the roster spots…. But I don’t think we are just going to use the waiver exempt status of Drury to stick him down in Chicago and forget about him…I think the Canes are going to use the competition for playing time to ensure ultra competitive 4th line players and potentially pushing upper line players for playing time. No one will be taking the night off or they will find themselves in the press box or waived and demoted to Chicago……. And when Patches is ready to come back, assuming everyone else is healthy, it’s going to be even crazier for playing time, pushing top 9 players down to the 4th line and maybe even being waived to have them on paper be assigned to Chicago…
I’m sure the guys know the score. I’m sure Rod was very honest with them about exactly how he sees things and what he expects…. Hopefully they all can handle the pressure of the expectations and the competition is a positive thing for them and brings out their best playing performances…. It does nothing but benefit the team as a whole in that situation…
This team has been really lucky in the last few years not to have had even more injuries Than they did…. We have seemingly had years like Vegas last year where everyone seems to get hurt and hurt for long chunks of time. I shudder to think of those dark dark dark years where waaaaaaaaay too many career minor leaguers got to make their Nhl debuts with us and play too many games….
But overall we have been relatively healthy and relatively lucky we didn’t have major major outages for multiple key players on the team the last few years…..…. You can overcome one key loss… but losing multiple key core guys for longer stretches can essentially tank your season if you don’t have a lot of depth that can play up…
Not ignoring what happened with our goalies last year or losing TDA for a key stretch or whatever happened to Bear post Covid or just having chunks of guys down with Covid at all and still playing instead of cancelling…. It hurts we lost Patches before he even got a preseason game in….incredibly unlucky but at the same time, we traded for an older player with some injury history… I attribute that more to adding a few older players and our young guys a year older etc…. We have gone from one of the youngest teams to more mid to older teams in the league…. Loooooooooooooooooooong, rambling way of saying that we need as much depth as humanly possible as I worry this year more than ever before about health and losing some guys, even more guys than what we already lost with Patches….
Stepan embraced the extra forward role and doing whatever Rod asked of him, including being ok with not playing full time. He was a consummate pro last year coming out of the press box, sitting for stretches and being positive and being productive when he did get his shot…. I feel we reaallly are going to need him this year as well as Drury and Noesen and likely a few other forward call ups from Chicago before the season is over…. Glad we have Stepan on the team. He isn’t blocking Drury…. Drury absolutely will still play…. And assuming he shows he can take care of business and play the right way and play a 200 foot game, Drury likely will play more than Stepan by the end of the year if last season is any indication and Drury works his way into a full time spot ala Jarvis from last season…
I think there may be a bit of shuffling of the deck early in the first few weeks of the season to define the pecking order and see who can earn the roster spots…. But I don’t think we are just going to use the waiver exempt status of Drury to stick him down in Chicago and forget about him…I think the Canes are going to use the competition for playing time to ensure ultra competitive 4th line players and potentially pushing upper line players for playing time. No one will be taking the night off or they will find themselves in the press box or waived and demoted to Chicago……. And when Patches is ready to come back, assuming everyone else is healthy, it’s going to be even crazier for playing time, pushing top 9 players down to the 4th line and maybe even being waived to have them on paper be assigned to Chicago…
I’m sure the guys know the score. I’m sure Rod was very honest with them about exactly how he sees things and what he expects…. Hopefully they all can handle the pressure of the expectations and the competition is a positive thing for them and brings out their best playing performances…. It does nothing but benefit the team as a whole in that situation…
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LeBrun: How Hurricanes GM Don Waddell pulled off the Brent Burns trade and another splashy offseason
GM Don Waddell takes us inside the Hurricanes' summer, from the Burns and Max Pacioretty deals to interest in Matthew Tkachuk and more.
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Lebrun article dropped. Very little information in this article that isnt elsewhere / seen before. nothing in depth from Lebrun, unfortunately.
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EEhhhh
Ehhhh.....
I wouldn't make broad assumptions from this. Seats next to me are labeled in blue here and I know for a fact they are taken by a full STM who resells a few games per year.
If anyone's interested in the ticket dynamics at PNC this season, here's a good way to look at it. This is the current ticket availability for probably the lowest-demand game of the season, Ottawa in late February. I'm going to go ahead and assume that not a lot of people have rushed to buy advance tickets for that game, so this is a sort of heat-map of where tickets have and have-not been sold this season.
There's a lot to take in here. For example, there are a lot of unsold seats behind the Canes-shoot-twice net and behind the Canes bench. I'm guessing that's an outcome of STMs settling into lower-priced sections, which means non-STMs are far more likely to get hit with the triple-whammy of being forced into an expensive section, paying full retail price, and getting hit with absurd fees. In this scenario, a full STM sitting in 111 T would pay $67+tax, while a single-game buyer sitting in an identical seat directly across in 127 T would pay $113.80+tax. That dynamic explains the patterning, and it also explains why the Canes want it that way.
But what I really find interesting is that this map shows us exactly where the scalpers are. The pink lines are tickets for resale. I assume that virtually none of them have been sold yet, so this is almost like a directory of PNC Arena's professional scalpers. The 2-4 seat blips are nothing remarkable, just STM trying to offload the worst game on the schedule. But look how many complete rows are for sale... no normal STM is buying 15 seats in the nosebleeds, that's organized scalping in one way or another. And it's noticeable that many of those pink rows are in perfect alignment, like someone just said "give me all your Row Hs".
Next time you see a game against a big-market team, look for that corner to the left of the penalty box that's always overrun by visiting fans. Nearly half those seats are blocked off by scalpers who are trying to sell 6-8 seats in a block. That explains a lot. Likewise, Section 303 is directly behind the visiting bench and heavily inundated with long rows of scalper seats.
That, in a nutshell, is why it's so damn hard to drown out the Rangers/Bruins/Pens fans during the playoffs. No matter what hijinks they might play with ZIP codes and early releases, the fact is that there are going to be scalpers serving up entire blocks to people who are willing to throw all their expendable cash at a single game, because they know they won't be coming back. So you get Canes fans paying $150 for nosebleeds in 303 and find themselves in the middle of 40 Rangers fans
Ehhhh.....
I wouldn't make broad assumptions from this. Seats next to me are labeled in blue here and I know for a fact they are taken by a full STM who resells a few games per year.
tarheelhockey
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If it’s blue, it’s up for retail sale. Most likely that person has already exchanged their seats for that game.
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I don't disagree, but as that LeBrun article pointed out, the Canes are trying to stock up on veteran presence to make a deep run, and Stepan has the experience that Drury doesn't.
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he didnt get an performance bonuses either. So, who knows how that will go later on.
Its a tad late to ask for a trade at this point. Then again he was the 4C all through camp so why would he when the time was right.
He's 22, played 1 season in the AHL, and he should be requesting a trade because he's going to get 1st line C minutes in the AHL to start the season instead of 4th line C or wing minutes in the NHL?
I'd much rather have Stepan in the press box than Drury if it comes to that. And if he is, did Stepan take Drury's roster spot, or did Stastny? Many of us were wondering if Drury would be on Staal's wing or centering the 4th line, which seem like the spots Stastny is likely to play now.
There will be opportunities for Drury to come up and impress again. It may be as soon as Bear is traded; it may be as soon as Kase gets hurt. But I think requesting a trade after one year of your ELC is a bit much.
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Vagrant
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To answer it simply, I feel like it would be best for him. He already went to Sweden to burn a year before even signing his ELC and won a championship over there. He came over and did everything he was asked in the AHL and dominated the playoffs on the way to winning the Calder Cup. He defeated the NCAA, SHL, and AHL in successive seasons and scored 2 goals in 2 games while briefly elevated last year. If you don't like him enough after that to find a spot for him in your lineup, try your hand elsewhere. he's not 19, he's going to be 23 in February. that's the age you start getting sidelong glances as a prospect. especially in this age of most any worthwhile prospect hitting the scene in their D2 season. when we signed Stastny that should have been the last guy we signed to put ahead of our future. I like Stepan. He did great for us last year, but he's not got much left and we're letting a prospect like Drury spin his tires. trade him or play him. And this 4th line vs. 1st line stuff isn't as relevant as it once was. The way the game is going the 4th line has the same goal as the 1st line and the numbers might as well be arbitrary. I don't see any substantial reason a player would fare better in development playing 20 minutes a night in an inferior league than a solid 12 in the best league in the world. All logic just says this is his year to be up.
The 4th line vs 1st is more about getting minutes than it is style of play or objectives.
Is it better for Drury to play 20 minutes a night in Chicago or 8-10 per night in Raleigh? I don't think the 4th line is getting even 12 regularly. Martinook averaged 11 per game last year, and Lorentz and Stepan were each under 11 minutes per game. Kotkaniemi barely hit 12 minutes per game and that was with him getting 3rd line C time and some top 6 wing time early in the season.
But as I said, I think he will be up sooner rather than later, and I think he will bump Stepan to the press box when he is able to join the team. Just need to find someone who is interested in Bear.
Is it better for Drury to play 20 minutes a night in Chicago or 8-10 per night in Raleigh? I don't think the 4th line is getting even 12 regularly. Martinook averaged 11 per game last year, and Lorentz and Stepan were each under 11 minutes per game. Kotkaniemi barely hit 12 minutes per game and that was with him getting 3rd line C time and some top 6 wing time early in the season.
But as I said, I think he will be up sooner rather than later, and I think he will bump Stepan to the press box when he is able to join the team. Just need to find someone who is interested in Bear.
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And we haven't played game 1 of the 82 game season yet.... and have some things to work out in terms of pecking order with the roster and managing things with waivers eligible players and veterans so we don't lose valuable pieces to us and our depth as an organization to withstand the long haul of the next 98+ games...
Drury will get a chance to prove himself and lock down his roster spot.. once we clean up the roster a bit more as the season starts..
Drury will get a chance to prove himself and lock down his roster spot.. once we clean up the roster a bit more as the season starts..
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