GDT: New Jersey Devils @ Montreal Canadiens - 7:15pm

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glenwo2

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I'll just leave this here.

(maybe the person who makes the GDT can use it for tonight's against the Caps?)

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So I got Jack on my Fantasy team, is he really that bad at face offs or just doesn’t take any? Only shows as 1 win tonight on ESPN Fantasy. Between him and Zegras as my Centers it feels I get killed in that stat.
 
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glenwo2

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Wait a minute...

Are we really going to do this?

Have fans come here to throw shade (intentional or unintentional) at Jack for not doing well at Faceoffs WHEN HE'S DOING WELL AT EVERYTHING ELSE??? :banghead:


How about this : If you have him on your fantasy team (for example), enjoy the stuff he CAN do which is pretty much everything. That's it.

And to others that want to come and throw shade at Jack just because....Jealousy? Don't.

That is all.
 
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NjdevilfanJim

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Hab players took a lot of liberties with their extra hits somewhat late hits because they have Xhekaj.....Exactly what we need...
 

Clam Jensen

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Hab players took a lot of liberties with their extra hits somewhat late hits because they have Xhekaj.....Exactly what we need...
I was watching the game while folding clothes, so not 110% engaged. It took me 2 periods to realize that jack eye was Xhekaj. He’s definitely a presence, but he’s not good at defense if he’s required to make quick decisions with the puck or move with any semblance of agility.
 

NjdevilfanJim

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I was watching the game while folding clothes, so not 110% engaged. It took me 2 periods to realize that jack eye was Xhekaj. He’s definitely a presence, but he’s not good at defense if he’s required to make quick decisions with the puck or move with any semblance of agility.
He isn't the most agile I agree but he skates good .....Made some decent plays keeping puck in our zone last night.....My point with him is they have no fear of retaliation on late hits because not many want to have to fight him....

Hughes (both) and Nico would receive a lot less of these face rakes and extra hits if we had a similar presence on the ice....He also had a nice clean hit on Holtz last night.....
 

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So I got Jack on my Fantasy team, is he really that bad at face offs or just doesn’t take any? Only shows as 1 win tonight on ESPN Fantasy. Between him and Zegras as my Centers it feels I get killed in that stat.

He's really that bad at faceoffs :laugh: He doesn't even try to win them anymore. He just immediately goes to recover the puck after it's dropped.
 
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Clam Jensen

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He isn't the most agile I agree but he skates good .....Made some decent plays keeping puck in our zone last night.....My point with him is they have no fear of retaliation on late hits because not many want to have to fight him....

Hughes (both) and Nico would receive a lot less of these face rakes and extra hits if we had a similar presence on the ice....He also had a nice clean hit on Holtz last night.....
Bahl can be that I think, he just doesn’t seek it.
 

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While one could gamble on the smaller, weaker, rush-centric, one-dimensional, pure playmaker in Jack Hughes, the option is available to select the more complete, versatile, powerful, relentless and creative cycle and boardwork player in Kaapo Kakko. There is less risk in Kaapo Kakko and yet a very high-level player. Hughes is much more of a boom-bust, one-dimensional pick with red flags that should warrant caution. Kaapo Kakko’s game is much more likely to translate to the NHL than Jack Hughes’. I believe that hockey IQ and awareness are the most important trait for prospects to have. Players drafted on the basis of skill above other deficiencies are riskier. When skill is prioritized above hockey IQ, and when the player’s hockey IQ is average, players like Jesse Puljujarvi and Nail Yakupov become early picks – those are extreme examples of highly-skilled forwards with average hockey IQ, but nevertheless the illustrate the potential floor that a skill-over-IQ player possesses. Sometimes, NHL teams gamble on these players with high picks. These are players who, in spite of their skill, struggle to process the game well enough to control the game. The potential for that player to become a project becomes that much greater. On that note, I believe that the puck-handling skills of Kakko and Hughes are similar. Kakko is the more complete thinker with greater creativity and intuition. There is some risk to Hughes, as he is a skill-above-IQ type of player, and a rush-centric player at that. Hughes’ hockey IQ is not his strongest attribute, and his success at lower levels comes primarily from his speed. When there are two options available as we have here, the high-IQ, high-floor player should be preferable.
And the first season was a hope for people who didnt watch the game that they were right.
 

Brooklyndevil

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No one cares here. He leads the league in points and is playing incredible defense. He could probably have 20 points now.

None of us care about stupid faceoffs with his production.
I’m surprised Jack hasn’t gotten better on the dot. He’s the type of kid that seems to improve in all areas of the game year by year. He certainly improved defensively with that magic stick. I’m sure he’s working hard on getting better on face-offs.
 
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