GDT: New Jersey Devils (21-5-1) @ New York Rangers (14-10-5), 7 PM, MSG, MSGSN, NHLN

[Capt Nico Poo]

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Hello Zacha and Mango?

Edit. Maybe not Zacha, too young but:

- Mango
- Subban
- Butcher
- Gusev
- Palmieri(?)

 

[Better Call Sal]

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Comes across as pretty damning. Clearly this is all PK's fault for wanting to go eat after a loss that one time.

 

[NJDevs26]

I'm surprised nobody speculated on Subban yet...I like the guy but he really did seem like someone that was a bit laissez-faire about being on a bad team. Hell even last year you heard a lot more talk about Dougie in camp when he'd been here five minutes, being a leader than you heard about PK in three years.

Zacha, I never got the impression dude enjoyed anything at all, on or off the ice. Which is probably a big part of his problem, he doesn't want to be a hockey player enough but his talent and a f***ed up home dynamic led to him just being a jag NHL player when he had the talent to be more than that.

 

[Clam Jensen]

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Burgers and fries you say? Sounds like Pat Maroon to me.

 

[Saugus]

Beating up on the Rangers would be a great way to bounce back from a tough loss to the Isles. Make it so.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Hello Zacha and Mango?

Edit. Maybe not Zacha, too young but:

- Mango
- Subban
- Butcher
- Gusev
- Palmieri(?)

Has to be Zacha and Subban.

 

[Mgd31]

I mean that's got to be Zacha and Subban right? Or just Subban?

 

[njdevils1982]

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sevs telling it

 

[Whaddagoal]

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Holy shit, thats pretty damming if real....

Thats gotta be Zacha, PK Subs, Mango, or Kuokkanen.

Mango is still here and either serving pennance or just odd man out
(doesnt seem to me he would be a problem. He had major confidence issues earlier and didnt seem to be a guy who would be seeking out a cheesburger giving 0 f***s with his career teetering). Doubt Vesey was also not caring with his career on the line.

Feels to me more like Pavel and PK.. Dang man, a dagger to Pavel supporters

 

[BostonDevil]

The Haula people are interesting. Haula has scored the first goal once before (in Ottawa), but that's it, that's his only goal for the season. Jesper has scored 10 times this season and scored first twice -- once in Toronto and another time in NJ against EDM. Knowing this, 5 people still voted Haula, and as it stands, 0 for Bratt.

Those of us who voted for Haula went for the big payoff. If there was a Haula - Smith - McLeod trifecta, I would have thrown $5 on that too.

 

[Saugus]

Hello Zacha and Mango?

Edit. Maybe not Zacha, too young but:

- Mango
- Subban
- Butcher
- Gusev
- Palmieri(?)

Could one of them be Hall, perhaps? The article didn't specify timeframe very precisely, it just mentioned that Severson has been here since 2012. So it doesn't necessarily have to be only guys that were on the team last season that they are referring to.

And Hall was certainly "weeded out", after a fashion.

 

[Bleedred]

Wait a minute..... Was he actually being literal about the cheeseburger and fries thing? Because if he was then maybe this is a shot at certain players diets and/or conditioning? Or maybe it's just a metaphor for guys who just couldn't care less and were ready to go home and didn't wanna be bothered?

 

[Mgd31]

I take it back, give Severson an 8 year deal.

 

[Devs3cups]

As they would say on Seinfeld...it's real, and it's spectacular

*I googled New York Times Devils, and used a free preview article to read it

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

 

[Mgd31]

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

Yea but I'm sure it happened a lot last year lol

 

[Bleedred]

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

We will tonight, as per my predict the score earlier in the GDT.

 

[Saugus]

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

I didn't take that score or the "burgers and fries" literally. It seemed more like they were metaphors for "bad loss" and "lackadaisical behavior", respectively.

Basically just guys who didn't give a shit if the team suffered a bunch of embarrassing losses, as long as they got paid and could live the good life.

 

[Better Call Sal]

I'm surprised nobody speculated on Subban yet...I like the guy but he really did seem like someone that was a bit laissez-faire about being on a bad team. Hell even last year you heard a lot more talk about Dougie in camp when he'd been here five minutes, being a leader than you heard about PK in three years.

Zacha, I never got the impression dude enjoyed anything at all, on or off the ice. Which is probably a big part of his problem, he doesn't want to be a hockey player enough but his talent and a f***ed up home dynamic led to him just being a jag NHL player when he had the talent to be more than that.

Yeah I mean look, it's all speculation on our parts of course. And I'm very much a PK guy as well. But he obviously kept things light and maybe it was something that trickled into things in the locker room and it bothered some of the guys who had been here through the losing years. Remember when he and Wood fought in a training camp scrimmage?

It wouldn't shock me at all if his personality didn't mesh well with Severson who is clearly a guy who takes this stuff personally and is sick of what has been going on. Hell, he mentioned he went to the World Championships for Canada because he was sick of the shitty losing seasons we were having.

 

[Capt Nico Poo]

Wait a minute..... Was he actually being literal about the cheeseburger and fries thing? Because if he was then maybe this is a shot at certain players diets and/or conditioning? Or maybe it's just a metaphor for guys who just couldn't care less and were ready to go home and didn't wanna be bothered?

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

I think Gusev and Mango could be the guys with clear attitude problem and maybe PK at some point when he really sucked.

Dont think Sevs was being specific about a 5-1 result, more just saying "after an ugly loss".

 

[NJDevs26]

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

Today, they also had some more generic quotes from Brendan Smith about a winning culture before that.

 

[The Wumpus]

Some guys figured they might get traded, but Subban is the only one who knew he wouldn't be around soon.

I think the subtractions have been as important as the additions

 

[JimEIV]

I mean that's got to be Zacha and Subban right? Or just Subban?

Sounds more of a damnation of the previous GM than the unmotivated, no pride players to me?

 

[NJDevs26]

Holy shit, thats pretty damming if real....

Thats gotta be Zacha, PK Subs, Mango, or Kuokkanen.

Mango is still here and either serving pennance or just odd man out
(doesnt seem to me he would be a problem. He had major confidence issues earlier and didnt seem to be a guy who would be seeking out a cheesburger giving 0 f***s with his career teetering). Doubt Vesey was also not caring with his career on the line.

Feels to me more like Pavel and PK.. Dang man, a dagger to Pavel supporters

PK and Zacha are really the only ones important enough to speculate on. Guys like Gusev I wouldn't think would be among the ones not caring since he was trying to carve out a career in the NHL but who knows. The Kuokkanens of the world really were never important enough to think about either way.

When was it published? Devils haven’t lost 5-1 this year I believe…

The blurb was about the mood in prior years, clearly we had our share of 5-1 losses then.

 

[Louskoolaid89]

We should have a poll for who's goal will be disallowed! In all seriousness LFGD!!!

 

[Saugus]

Sounds more of a damnation of the previous GM than the unmotivated, no pride players to me?

I would say it's both. It's definitely on the players for not giving a shit and not holding each other accountable.

But it's also on the GM for bringing those kinds of players in. Teams definitely have that information, they do psych profiles (of varying effectiveness) before drafts, and guys develop reputations after they've been in the league for a bit.