New GM Discussion Thread

[ECWHSWI]

Not true. The best GM and coach of the Habs were anglophones. Learn facts.

Scotty Bowman (and other anglo coaches before him) spoke some french, need some learning too I guess

 

[NeptunesTrident]

I don't care what language they speak as long as the team wins.

 

[Doc McKenna]

I agree with you 100%, I just want us to ****ing win and be consistently good again. Look across all of pro sports and examine the winning teams, are they not built by the most talented and respected people in their sport of expertise? Did any team swoop in and grab Michel Therrien? If Brisebois is the most qualified candidate and wants to be here than so be it but if it is some other candidate that only speaks english do we need an asterisk beside his name because he is not bilingual? We cannot win without the best people both on and off the ice, we put ourselves at an extreme disadvantage by doing this .

Honestly if teh NHL combined with the KHL to form a league that finished each year with a megamatch between top 8 teams from each continent it would get rid of a lot of regionalism, and actually provide an opportunity for many francophone coaches/gms to develop over in europe as opportunities would exist. It would also allow for their quality coaches to be hired here. Would people object to Tretiak being a coach or gm here, I wouldn't.

 

[sergejean]

Its historical context isn't an inbred development team for friends and family. That is a much more recent development.

That speaks of MB and his management style more than anything else.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I don't care what language they speak as long as the team wins.

And that should be the bottom line

 

[ECWHSWI]

I agree with you 100%, I just want us to ****ing win and be consistently good again. Look across all of pro sports and examine the winning teams, are they not built by the most talented and respected people in their sport of expertise? Did any team swoop in and grab Michel Therrien? If Brisebois is the most qualified candidate and wants to be here than so be it but if it is some other candidate that only speaks english do we need an asterisk beside his name because he is not bilingual? We cannot win without the best people both on and off the ice, we put ourselves at an extreme disadvantage by doing this .

You consider Pens GM/coaches to be the best in the league at their job ? ?

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Who cares. We are going to get somebody slightly better than Bergevin (Brisebois), tell ourselves he helped Tampa bay just like Bergevin helped Chicago, then go on to spin our wheels for 7 years, complain we wasted Dahlin's prime years and restart the cycle of looking for a new GM in 2025. Oh wow, Toronto spent big money and hired a super team in their front office and the best coach in the world, yet we are still going to relegate ourselves to a tiny pool of qualified candidates. I don't know what people really expect.

I remember how Steve Yzerman was upset he did not get a chance to interview for our GM. And people here said "Well its Montreal, deal with it". Now all people do is drool over the team Tampa has lol.

 

[OldCraig71]

Honestly if teh NHL combined with the KHL to form a league that finished each year with a megamatch between top 8 teams from each continent it would get rid of a lot of regionalism, and actually provide an opportunity for many francophone coaches/gms to develop over in europe as opportunities would exist. It would also allow for their quality coaches to be hired here. Would people object to Tretiak being a coach or gm here, I wouldn't.

I would take Scotty Bowman back at this point.

 

[OldCraig71]

You consider Pens GM/coaches to be the best in the league at their job ? ?

I said on and off the ice did I not? Also the Pens just won the cup and their history has shown that they don't hang on to people if they are not winning, it is a results based business is it not? You think Bergevin gets 6 years in Pittsburgh? Therrien didn't.

 

[ECWHSWI]

And that should be the bottom line

It never will be, you can safely bet your howse someone will come here and wonder "it's becase he's french" whenever the Habs hires someone who speak some french, even an anglo who speak french, you will read it "Oh! that's because he knows some french".

 

[ECWHSWI]

I said on and off the ice did I not?

so you do consider then the best in the league. OK.

 

[OldCraig71]

so you do consider then the best in the league. OK.

Right now they are yes.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Right now they are yes.

and Jacques Martin is the best def. coach in the league.

 

[OldCraig71]

and Jacques Martin is the best def. coach in the league.

He is on the Stanley cup champion and that D was not full of Norris winners last season so he must have done something right last year for sure and again, results based business.

 

[ECWHSWI]

He is on the Stanley cup champion and that D was not full of Norris winners last season so he must have done something right last year for sure and again, results based business.

Sorry, going by the "you won = you're the best' logic means Pens had the best D in the league.

You said it yourself, need the best in the league (off the ice as well) to win, and they won so...

 

[Archijerej]

I do not know much about Brisebois, but I've read a lot of posts so far saying he is intelligent and has a modern mind. On what exactly is that based on?

It's based on armchair evaluations. You'd have exactly the same people crapping all over BriseBois after three years.

 

[ECWHSWI]

It's based on armchair evaluations. You'd have exactly the same people crapping all over BriseBois after three years.

wich is exactly what you provided right after the bolded.

 

[Ogilthorpe]

Molson should have fired both Bergy and Therrien back when MB refused to fire MT the first time. This guy has dragged the Habs into the gutter for too long.

 

[lo striver]

Molson should have fired both Bergy and Therrien back when MB refused to fire MT the first time. This guy has dragged the Habs into the gutter for too long.

exactly. the foxhole had to be completely cleared back than.

 

[Lozela]

If they really want to change things around, they have to give it to Patrick Roy. He know's what he's doing and we saw what happened to the Avalanche once they stopped listening to him

 

[Rikiki Bousquet]

No it wasn't, it was played in a local league against the wanderers and maroons. So I guess those team represented the Yukon and PEI?

Honestly this is just bad faith.

It's a recorded and century old story that the team was made to exploit the divide between the two solitudes. Which is why the team was to be originally made of Canadiens-français players.

You can make your point valid without those kind of revisionist comments.

 

[the]

Molson should have fired both Bergy and Therrien back when MB refused to fire MT the first time. This guy has dragged the Habs into the gutter for too long.

Instead Molson like the stupid idiot that he is was sitting next to Bergevin and Michel during the end of the year conference and said he trusted them both.

 

[OldCraig71]

Sorry, going by the "you won = you're the best' logic means Pens had the best D in the league.

You said it yourself, need the best in the league (off the ice as well) to win, and they won so...

Okay, now that you have dissected my words, what is your view of what the habs need going forward? I am interested to read it, no sarcasm here just discussion.

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

Who cares. We are going to get somebody slightly better than Bergevin (Brisebois), tell ourselves he helped Tampa bay just like Bergevin helped Chicago, then go on to spin our wheels for 7 years, complain we wasted Dahlin's prime years and restart the cycle of looking for a new GM in 2025. Oh wow, Toronto spent big money and hired a super team in their front office and the best coach in the world, yet we are still going to relegate ourselves to a tiny pool of qualified candidates. I don't know what people really expect.

I remember how Steve Yzerman was upset he did not get a chance to interview for our GM. And people here said "Well its Montreal, deal with it". Now all people do is drool over the team Tampa has lol.

I can only "like" this once and that's not enough so I'm also quoting it for truth.

Imagine the Leafs never hiring Lou because he's not from Ontario, or even Canadian for that matter. That would also be a ridiculous reason not to hire the best available.

I'm not saying culture isn't important, and yes the Canadiens have a responsibility to cater to their French fan base, but you know what else is a big part of the heritage and culture of the Canadiens? Winning.

But hey, if they insist on continuing this way I guess it's one less rival to worry about

 

[Roadhouse]

And that should be the bottom line

Should be.

However,

Loi 101 --> lawful enforcement --> public obedience --> media reinforcement --> RDS/TVA stick to French questions --> more translation time involved i.e. less content should questions be asked in English --> need French speaking management