GDT: necas scores two goals as hurricanes win in edmonton gdt

[RodTheBawd]

Yes, he's had very little production: last night and in the preseason. But what I see when he's in the middle is a guy who sees the ice and makes very good decisions with the puck. He had two feeds to Aho last night in the slot for one-timers that Aho just plain wiffed on. I don't hold the lack of points on those plays as some indication that Necas didn't do everything right, Aho just screwed up his shot. Same thing ocured multiple times in preseason...his first game he made great passes to PDG for prime chances that PDG just couldn't finish on. Sure, Necas needs to get bigger and stronger to be more effective, but if we had an opening in the center, he can play it now.

It has nothing to do with points for me. He looked respectable in the preseason and earned the shot he got. He did not look good last night. I thought it was only the one feed to Aho that he fanned on, but lets call it two... outside of that, he looked outclassed. And not that I expect him to be some defensive stalwart, but I have yet to see him do anything in his own end. Getting 6 minutes in a game like last night is pretty telling in that regard. He's physically not ready.

 

[geehaad]

I've got a crazy idea...and I'll emphasize it's crazy, so hear me out: how about we let Ronnie and Billy handle this one, eh?

Great. Good talk.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Like when he was only given 6 minutes (and I believe none in the 3rd period) in a game we essentially had in hand 5 minutes in?

Great. Good talk.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I've got a crazy idea...and I'll emphasize it's crazy, so hear me out: how about we let Ronnie and Billy handle this one, eh?

Great. Good talk.

Haven't you ever heard the age-old saying, "the fan is always right"?

Or maybe it's the customer or something like that.

Anyway, you get the point.

 

[HisIceness]

When a franchise has had a 8-year playoff drought, is anyone right?

 

[The Faulker 27]

I know that last night was a partial dumpster fire salvaged by a handful of players. I enjoyed the win big time though. Watching Slavin stonewall McDavid all night was about as good as it gets.

 

[Unsustainable]

Necas was very quick on his feet, but he was going to get killed, he needs to gain like 50lbs

 

[Roboturner913]

Height and weight-wise, he's about the same size as Nordstrom was 2-3 years ago. Nordy got up to around 180 and became a much better grind/boards player. I don't think he needs to get drastically bigger but 180-185 would be just about right without losing any of his quickness.

 

[vorbis]

I think he also just needs a few bumps and bruises to get accustomed to a physical game and start leaning into the grind-y play a little bit. he's clearly a bit overwhelmed by the NHL game right now, but I don't see any signs of that being a long-term thing.

 

[Unsustainable]

Definitely not worried about him, but living in a gym and eating more protein wouldn’t be a bad idea.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I wouldn't be upset if he got sent back at this point, but I think they clearly punted on him this game with us getting pretty thoroughly outplayed. Not to mention how long it'd been since he played, I don't know that he got to show his best.

 

[Chrispy]

Re: Necas, I saw a guy who looked like he has the speed/skill level and presence. I know he got knocked off the puck easily and it's obvious he would be ill-prepared for a really physical game. Looked gangly. He needs to eat some steaks and hit the weight room clearly. I just tend to not point out negative things too much because Idk, who has time for that.

So he's got skill but is slight, as you'd expect for an 18 year old. Which is why a swing to play Western Conference teams is a perfect cup of coffee for him...

 

[geehaad]

Like when he was only given 6 minutes (and I believe none in the 3rd period) in a game we essentially had in hand 5 minutes in?

I fully intended to let any response from you go, but it just doesn't even make a modicum of sense. Not from the standpoint of a retort to what I said, to a remark about his play, to an indictment of Peters' coaching, to Francis' keeping him on the roster...nothing. It's just like a random point about random circumstance in a random place in the young NHL career of Necas. And then the "Great. Good talk."...as if that would follow a question in a conversation?

Just an all-around head-scratcher response.

 

[Vagrant]

Necas has a solid base to build from to say the absolute least, but he's not as good at avoiding contact as Kuokkanen and just doesn't seem to have as firm of a grasp of his game. Last night's contest wasn't exactly an ideal spot for working in your neon green 18 year old beanpole. Too much ice tilt towards our own net to trust him out there just yet. It would have been the same with Kuokkanen. When a team puts a 50 burger on you in the shots department it's probably a good idea to over-utilize your shot suppression lines instead of your shot creation lines when you have a lead. Experimenting with Necas could have cost us the game there. Let Kruger go out there and do his thing. Jordan and the like.

The truth is that it wouldn't have been a problem if Necas was where he should be at this point, whipping the puck around to Marty Erat on the best team in the Extraliga. I can imagine it can't help but feel a little disheartening to be pushed to the end of the bench and forgotten in a game where so much scoring was being done. It's just not sending a positive message to his confidence. If you think he's an ES liability, why is he even here?

 

[geehaad]

Too much ice tilt towards our own net to trust him out there just yet. It would have been the same with Kuokkanen. When a team puts a 50 burger on you in the shots department it's probably a good idea to over-utilize your shot suppression lines instead of your shot creation lines when you have a lead. Experimenting with Necas could have cost us the game there.

I can imagine it can't help but feel a little disheartening to be pushed to the end of the bench and forgotten in a game where so much scoring was being done. It's just not sending a positive message to his confidence.

Those two sets of sentences are in direct conflict with each other. It was either a scoring feast (it wasn't) or the ice was tilted dangerously (it was), not both. The whole team played like ass. "It would have been the same with Koukkanen" says it all. It was distrust of a rookie in a game where the other team is controlling the puck that's the problem, rather than specific distrust in Necas.

Here's the thing: that game was an experiment that didn't work, but all experiments give you data. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Good lord. Thursday night hurry up and get here!

 

[Vagrant]

Those two sets of sentences are in direct conflict with each other. It was either a scoring feast (it wasn't) or the ice was tilted dangerously (it was), not both. The whole team played like ass. "It would have been the same with Koukkanen" says it all. It was distrust of a rookie in a game where the other team is controlling the puck that's the problem, rather than specific distrust in Necas.

Here's the thing: that game was an experiment that didn't work, but all experiments give you data. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Good lord. Thursday night hurry up and get here!

They don't contradict at all. I didn't say it was a scoring feast, I just said a lot of goals were scored and when you're an offensive player not getting to play in games where a lot of goals are scored isn't fun. There isn't a lot of controversy built into that line of thought.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

HC Bordno isn't stayed by what kind of hockey player Necas will be in 5 years. They know he's an NHL talent and they'll only be getting him if he washes out of North America. When he goes back, they are thinking of how he will help them win games this year, which isn't the same mindset the Hurricanes use to analyze Necas' +1 season.

I only say that because getting Necas on the same page as the rest of the org; giving him a taste of the professional life; getting his training and diet in order; and giving him the opportunity to train with the Hurricanes' staff and put on some lean body mass might not be catastrophically worse than simply sending him Czechside in the last round of camp cuts. Heck, spending 3 months doing nothing but NHL weight training at his age might put him in a better chance to succeed in the Extraliga than if we sent him back cold.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I was just looking for highlights and found this



When people talk about how players like living in southern cities because they don't get hassled, this is the sort of dumb **** they're talking about.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Why is Haydn Fleury pretending to be Martin Necas?

 

[vorbis]

"he's on the TEAM??"

 

[JCLA]

Why is Haydn Fleury pretending to be Martin Necas?

Trying on his outfit for halloween

 

[RodTheBawd]

I fully intended to let any response from you go, but it just doesn't even make a modicum of sense. Not from the standpoint of a retort to what I said, to a remark about his play, to an indictment of Peters' coaching, to Francis' keeping him on the roster...nothing. It's just like a random point about random circumstance in a random place in the young NHL career of Necas. And then the "Great. Good talk."...as if that would follow a question in a conversation?

Just an all-around head-scratcher response.

I guess we're in the same head scratching boat, given you "asked" about leaving it to Billy (and Ronnie) to handle, to which I pointed out Billy did handle it by stapling the kid to the bench (for obvious reasons Vagrant has already pointed out). I'm sorry you took such offense to a tongue in cheek response to a relatively dumb post. Why do these forums exist if we shouldn't discuss how we think players should be handled?

 

[the halleJOKEL]

that is a good point

time to close the forums

 

[tarheelhockey]

"he's on the TEAM??"

I like when the camera pans around and you realize these are not just adults, but older men who stand around in front of a hotel in the middle of a weekday waiting for random hockey players they don't recognize to sign one of their big bag of pucks.

I shudder to imagine what these people do when they're not busy creeping NHL players out.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I like when the camera pans around and you realize these are not just adults, but older men who stand around in front of a hotel in the middle of a weekday waiting for random hockey players they don't recognize to sign one of their big bag of pucks.

I shudder to imagine what these people do when they're not busy creeping NHL players out.

I've never understood people like that. They're clearly not big fans as they don't even know who it is they're looking at. What could they possibly want to collect autographs for? Resale?

I'd only ever ask for an autograph if I had a kid with me. Otherwise, as big of a fan as I am, I'd have no interest in getting anyone's signature. That's just me, though, and I don't mean to judge any other adult men who like collecting them. I've ran into a few players over the years here in the gta and have met several canes players and just keep it short, give them a compliment etc.