Player Discussion: Neal Pionk Part 2

[libertarian]

At a time when Darnel Nurse can command 9.25m AAV I guess this is par for the course. I like the term. The AAV? Not so much. Rather Pionk in the 5m range.

 

[Jetsfan79]

5.5 would of been an A+ contract for the Jets. This is a B+ contract. Still a great deal IMO.

 

[Channelcat]

4 year 5.8$! I'm very, very good with this.

 

[Weezeric]

At a time when Darnel Nurse can command 9.25m AAV I guess this is par for the course. I like the term. The AAV? Not so much. Rather Pionk in the 5m range.

Pionk is 13th in scoring over the last two years. He is surrounded by Hamilton, Krug, Pietrangelo, and Burns. I wouldn’t have been shocked if he received >5M on a one year deal in arbitration. This is a great contract.

 

[pateramus]

That would be fantastic news, if true!



4/5 of Nurse at 2/3 of the cost!

5.875 that’s pretty specific! I was thinking low-mid 5m, but this is still in the ball park. Now let’s get Copper on a multi-year deal! Good work Chevy!

 

[Cypruss]

Terrific! May be possible to do something decent to retain Copp! Copp was my thought for my next jersey....but obviously waiting to see what he signs. Love the player on the Jets! The money/agent is a different view...

 

[Channelcat]

Pionk is 13th in scoring over the last two years. He is surrounded by Hamilton, Krug, Pietrangelo, and Burns. I wouldn’t have been shocked if he received >5M on a one year deal in arbitration. This is a great contract.

And that's without pp1 minutes.....and questionable partners.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Pionk is 13th in scoring over the last two years. He is surrounded by Hamilton, Krug, Pietrangelo, and Burns. I wouldn’t have been shocked if he received >5M on a one year deal in arbitration. This is a great contract.

Agree. He is also making 500k less than the Jets' highest-paid D while outperforming him handily pretty much since he arrived from NY. I'd say this is an excellent deal that fits this window perfectly -- and means the Jets will have to play their cards carefully with respect to their top D prospects so they're ready to step in as Pionk and Dillon/Schmidt step out.

 

[Cypruss]

Very happy to have prime Pionk locked in for a very reasonable hit, with much better supporting cast for the coming season. Very good deal, Pionk and the Jets certainly worked together on this. Not a discount really, but very fair for both sides on the term and AAV.

 

[TheHead]

Excellent term and cap hit. Good news!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

4 years and under 6 would be great!

Who said we don't get any team friendly contracts?

I would have preferred 6 years, but can't complain at that AAV.

all around.

 

[snowkiddin]

Considering what Hamilton, Nurse, Werenski, Jones, etc. signed for this a bargain.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

At a time when Darnel Nurse can command 9.25m AAV I guess this is par for the course. I like the term. The AAV? Not so much. Rather Pionk in the 5m range.

This is the 5 mil 'range'.

Seriously, I would also rather Connor for 4 mil, Scheifele for 5, Wheeler for 4.5, etc, but that is obviously unrealistic.

Both the term and the AAV are very team friendly.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Now lets see what really motivates Copp. 4x3.875 for Copp or a 1 year arb award.

 

[KingBogo]

Another great job by Chevy this summer. 4 X $5.875 is a very nice deal.

 

[Just Forfun]

6.625 x 6

why would Wieber say 4 X $4.4 as a possibility? Playing company schill?

 

[scelaton]

Extremely team-friendly deal! I was expecting him to hold out for more term (security) at higher AAV, but by agreeing to shorter term he has allowed us to re-sign Copp (if he is amenable).

Big picture: By getting rid of malcontents Trouba and Laine's contracts at $15.5M combined , the Jets have been able to rebuild their entire defense, while acquiring (Heinola) and retaining (Samberg, Stanley) their best defensive prospects.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

why would Wieber say 4 X $4.4 as a possibility? Playing company schill?

He's guessing. I don't think he has much to do with the Jets. Like all of us he hears rumors then guesses

 

[Joe Hallenback]

why would Wieber say 4 X $4.4 as a possibility? Playing company schill?

I heard he was signing for around 6 but I had to guess the length. I am not sure why he had it so low.

 

[Weezeric]

I heard he was signing for around 6 but I had to guess the length. I am not sure why he had it so low.

Heard anything on Copp? That’s the more interesting negotiation I think.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Extremely team-friendly deal! I was expecting him to hold out for more term (security) at higher AAV, but by agreeing to shorter term he has allowed us to re-sign Copp (if he is amenable).

Big picture: By getting rid of malcontents Trouba and Laine's contracts at $15.5M combined , the Jets have been able to rebuild their entire defense, while acquiring (Heinola) and retaining (Samberg, Stanley) their best defensive prospects.

Yep if Copp is a malcontent hopefully Chevy can trade him for an upgrade.

 

[scelaton]

Yep if Copp is a malcontent hopefully Chevy can trade him for an upgrade.

For clarity, there is no evidence that Copp has been anything but a team-first player to this point. If he wants out because the team is unable or unwilling to give him an objectively reasonable deal that does not make him a malcontent.

 

[Channelcat]

Pionk is 13th in scoring over the last two years. He is surrounded by Hamilton, Krug, Pietrangelo, and Burns. I wouldn’t have been shocked if he received >5M on a one year deal in arbitration. This is a great contract.

What if hes only good without fans though?

 

[ps241]

For clarity, there is no evidence that Copp has been anything but a team-first player to this point. If he wants out because the team is unable or unwilling to give him an objectively reasonable deal that does not make him a malcontent.

I 100% agree with this post.

 

[Adam da bomb]

For clarity, there is no evidence that Copp has been anything but a team-first player to this point. If he wants out because the team is unable or unwilling to give him an objectively reasonable deal that does not make him a malcontent.

How do u define an objectively reasonable deal when the numbers thrown around here are all over the map. I just know he has overcharge as his agent when he could have got any other agent in the world and must know there is a negative relationship between his club and agent.
That’s like hiring someone who has given ur boss a wedgie last time they had to be in a room together to speak on your behalf.