Prospect Info: NCAA Tournament March 28-April 13, 2024

Rapala

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HF Habs never changes

*Habs prospect breaks a record*

Well he wasn't that good today!!! And he's an inch short!
Get used to it.
Fowler will continue to have to fight that sentiment even when he turns pro.
6'4" has become the new 6'2."

So forget about:
Saros
Shesterkin
Giorgiev
Quick
Binnington
Bobobrovsky

None of these guys would make it in the New New NHL. :dunno:

I had a Michigan Wolverines t-shirt ~30-35 years ago (bought because I liked the logo back then, I knew nothing of them) and I really loved it, so I can't be mad at them if they win it all.
Yeah Iconic Logo.
Beats the hell out of BU's rich man's lap dog. :sarcasm:
 
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Speed is never irrelevant, that is a ridiculous claim to say the least. A player's IQ and anticipation can help to compensate but they would be much better if they were both fast and smart.

Hutson struggles mightily to pivot into a back skate although he has improved slightly from last season. Even his edges are over rated on this board as his lateral moves are more about deception than edgework.

He will need to improve his skating to play in the NHL, that is an irrefutable fact.

I simply disagree with you. His pivoting into backwards isn't good but his pivoting on the blue line when trying to fake out is very good. Also yes skating speed unless you're in a dump and chase system/forward on the for check is overrated unless you're on the back check as a defender as I said. Most of the time, speed through the neutral zone ends up in turnovers unless you're in odd man rushes. Speed through the neutral zone as a defender is the most useless attribute as when defenders rush pucks, they end up stalling the speed of the forwards breaking into the Blueline. It was a huge problem I hate with Subban when he was on the Habs. He would look cool doing his thing but it was ineffective in the big picture. So I agree Hutson needs to work on his back checking speed but speed in general is overrated. Suzuki is a prime example of a player not needing speed to be effective in all aspects of the game
 

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I simply disagree with you. His pivoting into backwards isn't good but his pivoting on the blue line when trying to fake out is very good. Also yes skating speed unless you're in a dump and chase system/forward on the for check is overrated unless you're on the back check as a defender as I said. Most of the time, speed through the neutral zone ends up in turnovers unless you're in odd man rushes. Speed through the neutral zone as a defender is the most useless attribute as when defenders rush pucks, they end up stalling the speed of the forwards breaking into the Blueline. It was a huge problem I hate with Subban when he was on the Habs. He would look cool doing his thing but it was ineffective in the big picture. So I agree Hutson needs to work on his back checking speed but speed in general is overrated. Suzuki is a prime example of a player not needing speed to be effective in all aspects of the game
Speed isn't only straight ahead speed in offensive situations though. Speed for a defenseman is often being able to keep up with a fast opponent streaking down your wing without getting beat outside.

We see it in play plenty of times with Guhle owho is rarely beat by opposing forwards, even the very best skaters. We see it in plenty of situations with Matheson too, even though the result is a mixed bag in this case because of Matheson's decision making.
 

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I don't think rushing pucks is an accurate description of what Reinbacher's strength will be and to me he looks nothing like Subban.
The player who was on the left of Subban is the guy I can see Reinbacher emulating or trying to emulate.
I have no idea if he will be as good at anticipating and snuffing plays out between the blue lines but that was always my favorite Markov attribute.
The thing that made Andrei Markov so friggin' good was he knew when and when not to and almost never made a mistake.
 

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I would have bet one of the Boston teams would falter before the final.
BU being the one with their goal tending.
But BC aren't proving to be infallible.
I'm not a huge fan of the one game format for a championship.
This ain't football FFS.
 

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Speed isn't only straight ahead speed in offensive situations though. Speed for a defenseman is often being able to keep up with a fast opponent streaking down your wing without getting beat outside.

We see it in play plenty of times with Guhle owho is rarely beat by opposing forwards, even the very best skaters. We see it in plenty of situations with Matheson too, even though the result is a mixed bag in this case because of Matheson's decision making.

I already mentioned back checking speed being the most obvious thing that skating speed is great for. The rest not so much. Positioning, IQ, and skill are much more important than skating (again besides for back checking)
 

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I simply disagree with you. His pivoting into backwards isn't good but his pivoting on the blue line when trying to fake out is very good. Also yes skating speed unless you're in a dump and chase system/forward on the for check is overrated unless you're on the back check as a defender as I said. Most of the time, speed through the neutral zone ends up in turnovers unless you're in odd man rushes. Speed through the neutral zone as a defender is the most useless attribute as when defenders rush pucks, they end up stalling the speed of the forwards breaking into the Blueline. It was a huge problem I hate with Subban when he was on the Habs. He would look cool doing his thing but it was ineffective in the big picture. So I agree Hutson needs to work on his back checking speed but speed in general is overrated. Suzuki is a prime example of a player not needing speed to be effective in all aspects of the game

There is quite literally no credible scout that would play down the importance of speed in all directions. Every slow player who is able to compensate with IQ and positioning is a lesser version of themselves without speed as a tool. There just is no way to deny this and smaller players need speed to gain separation when they have the puck as well as just the threat of their speed with the puck will alter defenders angles and discourage them from aggressively trying to remove time and space.

Time and space is the key to the game and speed is the greatest physical tool to procure it. I agree that IQ is paramount among the attributes that result in success but speed plays a large role in determining how effective that IQ can become. Without speed a player needs strong puck protection skills that generally require one or both of strength/size. Obviously puck skill and elusiveness also play an important role but small, slower dmen who are risk takers really need to have at least average straight ahead speed and probably more if we are being honest.
 

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We finally have the Frozen Four start tonight.

- BU (Hutson/Tuch) vs. Denver (Harris) @ 5PM ET

- BC (Fowler) vs. Michigan @ 8:30PM ET

Both games will be on TSN+
TSN+? Nice. Thanks for the heads up. Easier to watch it on TV that way than I originally expected it to be.

I feel weird rooting for a team from Boston. Like I'm sort of deviant like a Bruins or Patriots fan.

Anyway, go Habs prospects.
 

Rapala

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Man it's hard to see how Denver put up 4.9 goals per game playing like that.
The possession isn't horrible but the penetration is.
 
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