Player Discussion Nazem Kadri

[Bert Mckrakken]

So what the hells the deal with him?

He seems totally checked out, doesn’t seem interested at all. Is it a Sutter problem, and Kadri is just over playing for him? Cause really it’s starting to get embarrassing watching him out there….

 

[Kranix]

Eyeball test looks bad the last while. He looks slow, sloppy. I perceive there to be no chemistry with his linemates. However, last 5-10 games the shots/60 are there, the iscf/60, icf/60 are all good. Much better than Backlund, who had sustained a high level of play for half the season. Darryl seems to think he can't handle, or hasn't earned more minutes. He and Huberdeau should be playing 18, but they only get 16

 

[Ace Rimmer]

He ended last season in late June. He's over 30, so a short off-season is going to have more of an impact on performance. That's probably why he was a more impactful player in October than now.

That said he's tied for third in team scoring while playing all over the lineup. His -18 is hella concerning, and IMO attributable to the above.

Or he has a bad attitude and has already quit on the coach and his teammates. I don't think that's based in reality, but fan fiction.

 

[Kranix]

Or he has a bad attitude and has already quit on the coach and his teammates. I don't think that's based in reality, but fan fiction.

I think, as you pointed out, he's probably gassed, and the new team bump has faded. The stuff with Darryl, who knows. I bet it's more that the team has been up and down, and Kadri has been frustrated by his own play, and lack of chemistry rather than a war with Darryl where he quit on the team. He's trying out there, just having a rough go.

 

[Bounces R Way]

He's just getting pushed to the outside way too easily. Hits the offensive blueline and stops skating and glides to the half boards where he gets pinched off looking for a pass. That's not his game, that's never been his game. Huberdeau can get away with it because he has the vision and hands to make a play from there, even if it doesn't work all the time. That Zadorov goal last night was a good example of what he can do with a little space.

Nazem has to keep the legs driving and cut to the middle or chip and chase. Or just fire a high hard one through the defender. Also scrum it up a bit man, I remember hating when we were playing this guy because he was always in the goalie's face or giving a bit of extra stick work to the defense. Seen very little of that from him this season.

 

[super6646]

He’s been meh to awful for most of the season. Legitimately don’t understand why we paid 7m for a player who doesn’t tilt the ice anymore than backlund does. The game against Chicago was some of the worst hockey I can recall.

 

[Kranix]

He’s been meh to awful for most of the season. Legitimately don’t understand why we paid 7m for a player who doesn’t tilt the ice anymore than backlund does. The game against Chicago was some of the worst hockey I can recall.

He's actually generating quite a bit more individual offense than Backlund on the span of the season, and is substantially ahead of him in meaningful metrics over the 78 or so games. He's also killing younger centres like Brayden Point, and Mark Scheifele, in shots/60, icf/60, and is on par with Point in iscf/60, and they get more minutes with way better linemates.

 

[Mobiandi]

Struggled since the new year, and a detriment to his team in his last 20 games

 

[Bert Mckrakken]

For me it’s not so much his play, although the turnovers have been brutal. It’s his body language. Doesn’t seem engaged at all, and he is all woe is me when he does have the brutal turnovers. I thought we were getting a defensive 2C who could put the puck in 25-30 times a year. Pucks not going in I still want the dude who’s a pain in the ass to play against.

Also the amount these guys train now playing hockey in June isn’t an excuse. Everyone else in the world works year round. Grow up and play better.

 

[Deen]

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

 

[super6646]

He's actually generating quite a bit more individual offense than Backlund on the span of the season, and is substantially ahead of him in meaningful metrics over the 78 or so games. He's also killing younger centres like Brayden Point, and Mark Scheifele, in shots/60, icf/60, and is on par with Point in iscf/60, and they get more minutes with way better linemates.

He's a volume shooter. I'll give him that.

He's also been porous defensively this season and terrible in the dot (how tf is a 32 yr old centre 47.5% for pete sake). For someone who was billed as a "two-way centre" (never bought that) he's been terrible in his own end. Given the circumstances I'd say Backlund has been the more valuable player this season (arguably even more so than Lindholm).

 

[ahmedou]

 

[MrLunatik]

It's about Rantanen.

 

[hamzarocks]

Would kadri be available this summer for a trade?

If he was what would be the ask from Leafs?

He has 4 years at 7M left but still a good productive player.

Leafs assets of value are FLO 2nd in 2025, Easton Cowan, Nic Robertson, & Ben Danford.

I'm not really sure what the value for him at 7M would be

 

[Zirakzigil]

Would kadri be available this summer for a trade?

If he was what would be the ask from Leafs?

He has 4 years at 7M left but still a good productive player.

Leafs assets of value are FLO 2nd in 2025, Easton Cowan, Nic Robertson, & Ben Danford.

I'm not really sure what the value for him at 7M would be

None of those assets are going to convince the Flames to trade their best center and one of their best forwards. Kadri is happy on the Flames, refused to even consider the Avs at the deadline and a key part of the leadership group Conroy built. If you want Conroy to even consider asking Kadri to waive, the price will hurt.

 

[MrLunatik]

None of those assets are going to convince the Flames to trade their best center and one of their best forwards. Kadri is happy on the Flames, refused to even consider the Avs at the deadline and a key part of the leadership group Conroy built. If you want Conroy to even consider asking Kadri to waive, the price will hurt.

Sadly those assets do hurt them because they don't have any quality assets move other than Cowan and his value ain't what it was a year ago

 

[Mobiandi]

Would kadri be available this summer for a trade?

If he was what would be the ask from Leafs?

He has 4 years at 7M left but still a good productive player.

Leafs assets of value are FLO 2nd in 2025, Easton Cowan, Nic Robertson, & Ben Danford.

I'm not really sure what the value for him at 7M would be

Robertson, 2nd, Marner’s rights

 

[MrLunatik]

None of those assets are going to convince the Flames to trade their best center and one of their best forwards. Kadri is happy on the Flames, refused to even consider the Avs at the deadline and a key part of the leadership group Conroy built. If you want Conroy to even consider asking Kadri to waive, the price will hurt.

Sadly those assets do hurt them because they don't have any quality assets move outside of Cowan

Robertson, 2nd, Marner’s rights

That is absolutely f***ing terrible for the Flames

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Would kadri be available this summer for a trade?

If he was what would be the ask from Leafs?

He has 4 years at 7M left but still a good productive player.

Leafs assets of value are FLO 2nd in 2025, Easton Cowan, Nic Robertson, & Ben Danford.

I'm not really sure what the value for him at 7M would be

This summer? Probably not unless he asks for a trade. Call back in January if were not in the playoff race

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Sadly those assets do hurt them because they don't have any quality assets move other than Cowan and his value ain't what it was a year ago

Cowan just had a ludicrously good playoffs. I'm not sure I would say Cowan's value has changed drastically one way or another.

 

[Volica]

This summer? Probably not unless he asks for a trade. Call back in January if were not in the playoff race

This.
Calgary needs to be really bad, and not a place a lot of fun is happening. Like they need to be more or less out January... in that case I can see Naz entertaining a move.

If Calgary's in the race, they'll keep him. His contract has been worth every penny and more. You kind of wonder how his play would have looked with Tkachuk and Gaudreau still on the roster.

 

[Nanuuk]

Toronto doesn't have much that interests me apart from Knies. And I somehow doubt Toronto would want to part with him.

Besides. I wouldn't be surprised if the only current Toronto asset, at a more or less reasonable price, we would sign is Taveres as a short term fix to the centre conundrum.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

This.
Calgary needs to be really bad, and not a place a lot of fun is happening. Like they need to be more or less out January... in that case I can see Naz entertaining a move.

If Calgary's in the race, they'll keep him. His contract has been worth every penny and more. You kind of wonder how his play would have looked with Tkachuk and Gaudreau still on the roster.

I wouldn't say really bad. But not flirting with the playoffs like we did all this season. It's worth noting that Kadri's contract changes next summer. If we do decide to switch gears for the 2026 draft he may entertain waiving to his place of choice before that partial NTC kicks in where he has less control

 

[JPeeper]

I'd be shocked if Kadri doesn't retire a Flame, doesn't sound like he or the Flames want any part of him NOT being in Calgary. If he gives a f*** and can instill that kind of attitude in our young guys then I'm fine with him staying. If he is goes back to his pissy attitude he had under Sutter then he can GTFO, but I think that was a Sutter thing and not necessarily a Kadri thing because he put the team on his back many times last year.

Seems like after all the house cleaning the Flames have done the past two years there is no real cancer (not necessarily anyone specifically, just a mindset with all the guys seemingly wanting out) left in the locker room and these guys seem super tight with one another.