World Cup: National Team threads #2

[luiginb]

Martinez has to be really bad for you to get excited about Jorge Jesus or Mourinho in 2025.

 

[Bures Elbow]

Martinez has to be really bad for you to get excited about Jorge Jesus or Mourinho in 2025.

Completely different stratosphere of coaching, as old as they are now.

 

[Evilo]

Great news.

Reports out of Portugal indicate unless Martinez wins Nations League he's gone. Considering the last time we beat Germany was when Sergio Conceicao scored a hattrick in Euro 2000 vs them...I'm not holding my breath. Playing Germany, whose always owned us the previous 2 decades, in Germany, doesn't bode well.

Jorge Jesus or Mourinho ready to take over.

Yes this isn't the Jorge Jesus from 2009-2020 for Benfica/Flamengo etc, or Mourinho in his prime...but both are massive upgrades and would give us a real chance to take advantage of our talent right now and challenge for the World Cup...hard say if we'll have a better squad than this in 4 years.

Well maybe...we won the U17 euros last week beating France in the final (first time we EVER beat them at this age group). Great team with some great talents to add to Rodrigo Mora and Quenda.

Hopefully they continue to improve.

The portugese roster is insane.
Best LB in the game, talented young RB (Santos), uber talented CBs (Diaz, Silva, Araujo), Costa in goal, Vitinha at 6 (plus Palhinha), Neves at 8, Bruno at 10, then a forward line among Ramos, Leao, Jota, Neto and a guy like Mora.
If only they could hire a competent coach and get rid of Ronaldo, they'd be favourites every tournament.
I think on paper, only France has a better roster.

 

[cgf]

The portugese roster is insane.
Best LB in the game, talented young RB (Santos), uber talented CBs (Diaz, Silva, Araujo), Costa in goal, Vitinha at 6 (plus Palhinha), Neves at 8, Bruno at 10, then a forward line among Ramos, Leao, Jota, Neto and a guy like Mora.
If only they could hire a competent coach and get rid of Ronaldo, they'd be favourites every tournament.
I think on paper, only France has a better roster.

On paper, you can make a case for any of europe's top 5. The English & Portuguese have underperformed their talent, but on paper they're both right there.

 

[Evilo]

On paper, you can make a case for any of europe's top 5. The English & Portuguese have underperformed their talent, but on paper they're both right there.

England has glaring holes (CB, gk). Portugal doesn't.

 

[koyvoo]

Well, if his job is indeed in the line, that’s a questionable starting 11 from Martinez.

 

[cgf]

England has glaring holes (CB, gk). Portugal doesn't.

And Portugal doesn’t have the same kind of strength in attack that the English do…at least not yet, we’ll see what their kids become.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Naggelsman hard to look at with that stach.

Neto with. Golden chance should’ve layed it back to Ronaldo

 

[luiginb]

One stupid development in the already stupid refereeing world this year is that jersey pulls aren't automatic yellows anymore.

It took me until the 32nd minute to realize Trincao was playing

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

That half was awful. Both teams looked piss poor

 

[cgf]

Sane and Lego make sense in this formation…and given the cb options a back three feels like the right call. But I think I’d like to see Undav replace Leroy for the second half. Sloppy half in general, but from what I saw we had enough control to turn the screws on them in the second half.

Naggelsman hard to look at with that stach.

Neto with. Golden chance should’ve layed it back to Ronaldo

The extra weight isn’t helping either

 

[Evilo]

And Portugal doesn’t have the same kind of strength in attack that the English do…at least not yet, we’ll see what their kids become.

Portugal does have some damn good fowards. England has no decent goalie, nor decent CBs.
Also, how many english players have a top 3 players at their position? Kane? Maybe Saka?
Portugal has the best LB in the world, and their two young midfielders are already among the best.
Bruno is also one of the best 10 around.

 

[luiginb]

and their two young midfielders are already among the best.

The one playing right back and the one on the bench?

 

[Savant]

Wirtz goal

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Wirtz goal

That should be called back. Looked offside

 

[Savant]

That should be called back. Looked offside

No way. Thought that “foul” Portugal was crying about was no where near a problem either

I’ll tell you what I think we could do a lot worse than signing Woltemade for striker

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

No way. I’ll tell you what I think we could do a lot worse than signing Woltemade for striker

I’d like to see it again but he looked offside and interfered with Dias.

 

[luiginb]

I’ll tell you what I think we could do a lot worse than signing Woltemade for striker

Even though Nagelsmann is playing him as number 9, probably because of his size, from my viewings of him in Stuttgrt he's more of a second striker in the Firmino mold, so he'd fit right in.

Vincic with a very pro-Germany refereeing stance so far

 

[koyvoo]

Bruno Fernandes

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Wow what a goal

 

[luiginb]

Bad subs from Nagelsmann and Portugal makes them pay immediately. Germany are in trouble, their bench is much weaker.

 

[koyvoo]

Bad subs from Nagelsmann and Portugal makes them pay immediately. Germany are in trouble, their bench is much weaker.

It was also Conceicao actually doing something, coming in for the invisible (today) Trincao.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

lol germanh

 

[koyvoo]

Ronaldo’s tap in > Conceicao’s rocket.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

It was also Conceicao actually doing something, coming in for the invisible (today) Trincao.

Oh trincao was very visible in losing the ball for Germanys first goal.

Ronaldo offside no?