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Nassau County is considering filing a lawsuit agNew-York-Islanders-Nassau-Coliseumainst Nassau Coliseum operator SMG to collect nearly $6 million in unpaid rent, utilities, parking and concessions, as well as an additional $176,000 in back ticket taxes. (Newsday, May 19)

SMG owes the county money dating back to 2011, according to an audit conducted by comptroller George Maragos. He wants the county to file suit to collect the money.

“The county has every intention to collect the dollars owed and has been actively pursuing a resolution to make the county whole,” said County Attorney Carnell Foskey. (Newsday, May 19)
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At the very least, we can all say that the very last game in the NVMC was a win. In the grand scheme of things it didn't matter much since we lost the series, but just trying to make the best of a sad situation.
 
Amazing florida can have two NHL teams and the Orlando ice bears or something or another that play in the new beautiful Orlando arena and people on long island who follow hockey a lot more and have a lot more money and live a lot closer driving wise to the coliseum traffic wise...don't even get one nhl team?
 
The Orlando Solar Bears are an ECHL team that draws 7000 a game in a city that doesn't know crap about hockey. I wouldn't hold them up as anything to be excited about. I live here and it is nice to see any hockey from ten rows behind the net for 13 bucks but it's low level stuff.
 
replayer said:
The Orlando Solar Bears are an ECHL team that draws 7000 a game in a city that doesn't know crap about hockey. I wouldn't hold them up as anything to be excited about. I live here and it is nice to see any hockey from ten rows behind the net for 13 bucks but it's low level stuff.
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I like downtown Orlando for anyone who hasn't gone go on a weekend night
 
lacunacoil777 said:
Amazing florida can have two NHL teams and the Orlando ice bears or something or another that play in the new beautiful Orlando arena and people on long island who follow hockey a lot more and have a lot more money and live a lot closer driving wise to the coliseum traffic wise...don't even get one nhl team?
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The Lightning sell out every game, and have more support from the area than the Isles do (based on my experience living in both places). A lot of people from the north (and many from Canada) move down here....and eventually when they have kids--their kids usually cheer for the Lightning. The Lightning have a solid fan base.

If you really think that people on Long Island follow hockey more than Tampa...I don't know what to tell you other than it sounds like making assumptions to me. The ones that do follow the game in NY might know the game better--but there's more fans here altogether. I can't speak for the Panthers.

The worst seat in the house for game 4 cost over $150...for the corner wayyyyy up top.
 
ScaredStreit said:
The Lightning sell out every game, and have more support from the area than the Isles do (based on my experience living in both places). A lot of people from the north (and many from Canada) move down here....and eventually when they have kids--their kids usually cheer for the Lightning. The Lightning have a solid fan base.

If you really think that people on Long Island follow hockey more than Tampa...I don't know what to tell you other than it sounds like making assumptions to me. The ones that do follow the game in NY might know the game better--but there's more fans here altogether. I can't speak for the Panthers.

The worst seat in the house for game 4 cost over $150...for the corner wayyyyy up top.
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Absolutely agree...Ive gone to a few Bolts games and they sell out every night or close to it. Steve Stamkos audio recording welcomes you to Tampa when you fly into TPA and get on the Air Tram to the terminal.

It is a Football city with the Bucs/Seminols/Gators/USF Bulls running the show but the Lightning are a real draw.

I believe Stamkos even signs long term with the Lightning when his contract is up. Yzerman runs a solid organization and the young squad will keep getting better.
 
ScaredStreit said:
The Lightning sell out every game, and have more support from the area than the Isles do (based on my experience living in both places). A lot of people from the north (and many from Canada) move down here....and eventually when they have kids--their kids usually cheer for the Lightning. The Lightning have a solid fan base.
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I've only been to one game there, but many, many visits to TB. I will say the following in my small sample size:

1) TB feels like a "lightning" town, especially this year. People want to talk about them. People wear the merch everywhere. The fans are there.

2) The tickets are neither inexpensive, nor easy to get. They pretty much sell out most nights and the tickets are not exactly cheap. Again, the fans are there.

On the other hand:

3) The average fan is a newcomer to hockey down there, people seem to have little experience playing and little experience watching. You hear lots of people saying weird things that betray inexperience when you are at the game, or watching one at the bar. What would you expect? Its not Minnesota, it is Florida.

4) The average fan at the game is less engaged than even at a Ranger game, let alone an Islander game. They are instructed to cheer by the jumbotron, then they do so. Very little organic cheering.

I'm not sure what folks' expectations are, but Tampa Bay is definitely a town that supports its team; so I'm not sure what folks are getting at here by ******** on Lightning fans.
 
For those of you who are interested...

http://www.toh.li/news/1292-murray-...nassau-vets-coliseum-and-surrounding-property

“Hempstead Town has demonstrated that government and the private sector can work together efficiently to bring about smart, forward-looking development,†concluded Murray. “I want to thank Bruce Ratner for presenting a great proposal that accommodates a renewed Coliseum and associated development, as well as a plan for future construction across the entire site. I also want to thank Councilwoman Dorothy Goosby and all of my colleagues on the Town Board for their tireless work in creating a progressive building construction zone at this location that will preserve our suburban character while providing for substantial growth. Finally, I would like to express my gratitude to all of the residents of Nassau County, especially those who live in communities that surround the Coliseum, for sharing their important views and concerns as we considered major development that will impact our regions for many years to come.â€
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Forward thinking????
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See what happens when you win? You fill the stands --- and it really doesn't matter the knowledge of the people who fill those stands..

You think mgmt or a player cares if the seat is filled with a person with a 20 hockey IQ or a 93? Not so much.

Had the Isles been playing solid hockey the past 20 years, we would be in the middle of new construction on a new arena on LI, rather than planning how much heroin needed to endure a commute to Brooklyn.
 
Bones45 said:
See what happens when you win? You fill the stands --- and it really doesn't matter the knowledge of the people who fill those stands..

You think mgmt or a player cares if the seat is filled with a person with a 20 hockey IQ or a 93? Not so much.

Had the Isles been playing solid hockey the past 20 years, we would be in the middle of new construction on a new arena on LI, rather than planning how much heroin needed to endure a commute to Brooklyn.
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The problem is you also need to be able to fill the stands(at least partially) when you're not winning. It's seems that most people can't seem to come to terms with the fact that "the should just win all the time, forever" isn't a realistic or reasonable solution to NVMC's attendance woes over its lifetime.

Luckily for us Heroin abuse is running rampant in Nassau county and NVMC happens to be smack dab in the middle of one of the most affected counties in the country . So you should be able to find a good deal on the stuff before heading to the big scary city :sarcasm:

lacunacoil777 said:
Amazing florida can have two NHL teams and the Orlando ice bears or something or another that play in the new beautiful Orlando arena and people on long island who follow hockey a lot more and have a lot more money and live a lot closer driving wise to the coliseum traffic wise...don't even get one nhl team?
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To be fair, the two stadiums are like 4-6 hours away from each other.
 
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BroadwayJay said:
I've only been to one game there, but many, many visits to TB. I will say the following in my small sample size:

1) TB feels like a "lightning" town, especially this year. People want to talk about them. People wear the merch everywhere. The fans are there.

2) The tickets are neither inexpensive, nor easy to get. They pretty much sell out most nights and the tickets are not exactly cheap. Again, the fans are there.

On the other hand:

3) The average fan is a newcomer to hockey down there, people seem to have little experience playing and little experience watching. You hear lots of people saying weird things that betray inexperience when you are at the game, or watching one at the bar. What would you expect? Its not Minnesota, it is Florida.

4) The average fan at the game is less engaged than even at a Ranger game, let alone an Islander game. They are instructed to cheer by the jumbotron, then they do so. Very little organic cheering.

I'm not sure what folks' expectations are, but Tampa Bay is definitely a town that supports its team; so I'm not sure what folks are getting at here by ******** on Lightning fans.
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I think your assessment overall is accurate. The Bucs are the #1 team in town (out of the "big 4" sports). Right now more people follow college football.

But yes the Lightning are currently talked about much more than the Bucs, and have been over the past few seasons (minus the Bucs #1 pick).

I was just responding to the post where somebody else made that LI "no longer has a team" (they do...go tell that to people in Quebec, or even you Jay who used to cheer for the Whalers). My point was that being up north =/= better market than somewhere down south. The Lightning and Predators have proven this.
 
Guestfan said:
The problem is you also need to be able to fill the stands(at least partially) when you're not winning. It's seems that most people can't seem to come to terms with the fact that "the should just win all the time, forever" isn't a realistic or reasonable solution to NVMC's attendance woes over its lifetime.
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When I said "winning", I really meant "not being a laughingstock of the league and putting a respectable product on the ice most every year", not necessary leading the league. Perhaps I should have stated that.

:)
 
http://www.newsday.com/opinion/edit...ers-need-developer-to-keep-promise-1.10650906


The barn doors are about to close, leaving many on the outside looking in -- unemployed, with a very uncertain future.

When Nassau Coliseum shutters next month for renovations, 2,500 part-time and 40 full-time employees will lose their jobs. Some worked at the arena for more than 40 years. But as of now, they have no assurances of a job, or even an interview, when the doors reopen.

Two years ago, when developer Bruce Ratner was seeking approval of his plans to lease the Coliseum land, he sounded far more certain.
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Interesting that the NHL's official instagram account just posted a picture of the ice at the coliseum and captioned "THE Nassau Coliseum". Strange that they would promote it at all since it's a now defunct NHL venue
 
http://www.newsday.com/opinion/nass...-long-island-past-uncertain-future-1.10674167


As Nassau Coliseum closes its doors next week, the memories are flowing -- each one clear, with details so distinct.

Perhaps you're thinking about Bobby Nystrom's 7:11 goal in overtime to give the New York Islanders its first Stanley Cup in 1980. Or you're remembering when Roosevelt's Julius Erving scored 31 points in the win that gave the New York Nets the 1976 American Basketball Association championship. Or you're recalling a favorite concert, where there wasn't a bad seat.

Think about how loud the building got during the best of times. There were moments when Long Islanders came together there, often in one voice. There was the friendly tailgate pregame, the cheer of "Yes!" after goals were scored, and cars honking in rhythm long after a game.
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