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BonMorrison
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It was a joke, but presumably if Washington knew what they had with Forsberg at the time, they wouldn't have done it.
Counter offer:
O'Reilly and Forsberg for Vrana, Lapierre, Mangiapane, Alexeyev, 2025 1st
O'Reilly and Forsberg for Vrana, Lapierre, Mangiapane, Alexeyev, 2025 1st
Misery74
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And in an ironic turn of events, the Capitals win the Stanley Cup over the Jets
Porter Stoutheart
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I'm 100% in favor of the Preds trading O'Reilly at the TDL (despite that I firmly believe Barry Trotz will honor his "unwritten NMC" and not consider moving him).
Nevertheless, with this offer on the table, I'd certainly go shopping elsewhere first. We already have 2 late 1sts in the 2025 draft, and it is reputed to be a particularly weak draft at the end of the 1st round. Lapierre has shown some good things, but seems to be stalling out a bit as a prospect? I am not convinced he's the kind of player whose potential might be successfully unlocked under the current Nashville regime. He's more likely to end up on waivers or traded for a 2027 4th round draft pick next season, if he was in Nashville.
So to me, I don't think this offer is good enough. O'Reilly is slowing down, but somebody out there should be able to offer a better fit for the Preds' needs. Maybe with a 2026 1st, certainly with a better prospect. (I still don't think Trotz would take even a better offer, however, not unless that prospect really bumped into a prohibitively higher tier
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I’d rather the Caps promote Lapierre for 3C than give up the first rounder and the prospect.
Prices thus far seem nutty. I hope the Caps sit this one out.
Prices thus far seem nutty. I hope the Caps sit this one out.
I'd marinate on it and see if something else came along, but I think it's reasonable and wouldn't be upset if that's the return we got. I guess partly because I think most of Nashville is just one big "meh, whatever" mood right now with hockey. Hard to get fired up about much at this point.
Scoresberg
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Pass.
We get more value from keeping ROR as a mentor than a low-1st in a weak draft, a prospect who's approaching bust-territory and a cap dump.
We get more value from keeping ROR as a mentor than a low-1st in a weak draft, a prospect who's approaching bust-territory and a cap dump.
Other fans might disagree with me, but I'm not really interested in trading O'Reilly this season. Maybe next year? His contract is too good for what he brings to the table. It'd have to be an overpay IMO
Misery74
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Lapierre was great last year. This year, his sophomore year, he struggled.
He’s a good prospect, and most Caps fans would say they don’t want him moved for a 34 year old center.
Just trying to give some context.
Porter Stoutheart
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The counter-context is that Nashville is an absolute graveyard for players in the niche that Lapierre is in. Unless something changes, the team simply won't play a younger guy coming off an ELC, and he's essentially waiver-fodder to them. So when we say we're not interested in him, it's not necessarily anything to do with him in particular as a player/prospect... it's just we know exactly where that ship is headed... we've seen it too many times recently with this organization.
Porter Stoutheart
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It's going to have to be an overpay regardless, just to get past Trotz's filters. O'Reilly was money last year. This year... ehhh... he looks a bit off, but then look at the whole catastrophic team and abysmal coaching, so who really knows for sure. He just turned 34 which shouldn't be a totally decrepit age. Nevertheless, say he's a solid #2C with good intangibles at $4.5M for 2 more years after this one.... that's worth more than a late 1st in a horrible draft and "B" prospect IMHO.
I really want the Preds to trade O'Reilly. But the return has to be bigger. Otherwise, just wait it out. The team has 2 more kicks at the TDL can with him. His Cap hit is going to make him marketable next season, AND the season after. So there's no need to take anything that isn't a home run right now.
Scoresberg
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Eh, I see another Tomasino in him. A 2020 pick, already a 23-year-old 1st round pick. Those players rarely pan out to anything special if they haven't already even stuck to the NHL lineup.
Porter Stoutheart
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And that's exactly how Bruno/Trotz will look at him. Which means that, no matter how good he really is, or how much investment Caps fans have had in following his progression, his basic value to the Preds is... a 4th Round draft pick in 2027.
It sucks, but it is what it is.
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