Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season

[Mass]

It's not the internet without the unironic over the top theatrics. I'd understand Wild fans being very irritated about it given what's likely a major injury to their captain, or the spare Ranger Rempe lover who just want to back their guy, but it's more fans of other teams which I find a little bizarre and comes across as borderline grandstanding. Who was the last player the Preds had that garnered this kind of reaction? Neal? I didn't miss the hysterics.

It's an unfortunate fast developing play where I think L'Heureux needs to be smarter with his positioning and aware that they're both moving towards the boards with a decent rate of speed. I would argue it's reckless and if he doesn't fix it he runs the risk of having that consistent label which becomes an issue of him not caring about the safety of his peers ala Torres or Cooke. Won't really have a problem with a suspension unless it exceeds more than a week or so worth of games.

All that said, reading that main board thread, if you whited out the names of the players and teams, you would think Torres or Cooke WERE being talked about which is laughable. Everybody apparently wants a bad guy who has grand evil plans to ruin careers while refusing to acknowledge how fast and bouncy hockey can be.

For anyone else curious like I was, here are his 9 QMJHL suspensions.



Consider me whelmed.

 

[101st_fan]

Hal probably had the better take as Mason kept saying it wasn’t a slew foot. I’m like do you not see his skate behind JS’s skate and his skate wiped JS out?

Hal went on the not intentional tangent pretty hard. Started as a good hustle play then he pushed bad position and met all the requirements of rule 52.1

 

[LeighDx59]

Two major problems I saw last night that I finally wrapped my head around.

The easy one - while the top line is heavily skilled, these guys are terrible at handling passes. I can't tell you how many times passes were right on the stick and they rolled right off, killing any potential of an offensive play, whether it be thru the neutral zone or offensive zone.

The bigger problem is the defense seemingly jump into every play. It's an exaggeration the way I've written it but one play had a center with the puck leading a rush and the wingers were both defensemen. I've also seen how many times a defenseman will jump into the play leaving a forward at the point to cover.

The problem with this is, your forwards are usually your better offensive player and should be able to create down low with the defense holding the points. Instead, we have guys who aren't very good offensively trying to make a play with a guy at the point who's not skilled enough to hold it very often. Outside of Josi, no one should be jumping into the play like that. On occasion when the opportunity presents itself, sure, I get it. A clear 2 on 1, go for it. Not with a 3 on 3 or 2 on 2 or even a 4 on 4. If that's happening, dump the puck in, go battle for it, have the defense at the point and take your chances.

I don't see other teams sending defensemen deep very often unless the chance is there. And outside of a few elite offensive defenseman like Hughes and Makar and a few others, guys are holding the blueline and letting the forwards do the work. We also don't have the players to do this anyway outside of Josi so why is this being forced. I watch Schenn try and come up the ice with the puck and I'm like, stop trying to make a play, you're out there to play D and your offensive instincts are worse than Smith's. Stay in your lane.

With this, I think in Nashville's case its the system and lack of familiarity (which should be better by now). But in terms of the system, thats on Bruno. We just saw this in Detroit, once they fired Lalonde and brought it McLellan, it took one game/practice but weve seen considerably better play and passing all around since the coaching switch.

 

[herzausstein]

It's not the internet without the unironic over the top theatrics. I'd understand Wild fans being very irritated about it given what's likely a major injury to their captain, or the spare Ranger Rempe lover who just want to back their guy, but it's more fans of other teams which I find a little bizarre and comes across as borderline grandstanding. Who was the last player the Preds had that garnered this kind of reaction? Neal? I didn't miss the hysterics.

It's an unfortunate fast developing play where I think L'Heureux needs to be smarter with his positioning and aware that they're both moving towards the boards with a decent rate of speed. I would argue it's reckless and if he doesn't fix it he runs the risk of having that consistent label which becomes an issue of him not caring about the safety of his peers ala Torres or Cooke. Won't really have a problem with a suspension unless it exceeds more than a week or so worth of games.

All that said, reading that main board thread, if you whited out the names of the players and teams, you would think Torres or Cooke WERE being talked about which is laughable. Everybody apparently wants a bad guy who has grand evil plans to ruin careers while refusing to acknowledge how fast and bouncy hockey can be.

For anyone else curious like I was, here are his 9 QMJHL suspensions.



Consider me whelmed.

So mostly unsportsmanlike or fighting related. A bad highstick in there and him being an asshat to an annoying fan. Youd swear by the way the main talks that he just went around making bad hits and headhunting.

 

[Armourboy]

So mostly unsportsmanlike or fighting related. A bad highstick in there and him being an asshat to an annoying fan. Youd swear by the way the main talks that he just went around making bad hits and headhunting.

Yeah from what I can tell he's never been a dirty player really, just a guy that can't keep his mouth shut and then obviously the one incident with a fan.

You would think his entire career in the Juniors and AHL looked like Wilson, Torres, or Cooke they way people talk about him.

The good thing with him is he does seem to be a guy that learns from it. He started out rough in the AHL and that got better, and frankly he hasn't had any major issues until this one in the NHL. So hopefully he continues to learn and moves forward.

Opposing fans are probably always going to be after him though. Dude is one of those guys that fans hate unless he is on their team.

 

[Scoresberg]

I honestly find myself wondering about the long-term outlook for this franchise. Trotz has made it very clear that no young talent will break out here. Is the only option then to sign a bunch veteran UFAs every summer to keep plugging those holes in the lineup and keep this team somewhat competitive year in, year out? As for the early returns for the organization, the results couldn’t be any worse. We’re the oldest team in the league and the worst at the same time, which I do not think has actually happened EVER in the history of the league.

 

[Armourboy]

I don't think anyone can talk about a long term outlook because at every turn it looks like Trotz is trying to go in both directions at the same time.

 

[herzausstein]

Long term outlook?

Im just sitting here holding my breath waiting for a trade to occur and hope it is for the best. Trotz has said that he is going to start prepping the team for next season since this one is dusted. Just waiting how much we give up since we apparently dont hold our own in high regards.

We gave up on so many younger players already this season: Fabbro, Tomasino, Pärssinen. I fully expect us to also give up on Novak and possibly Evangelista by seasons end. Weve turned the top 6 into an aging veterans club. Forsberg is the youngest constant player in the top 6 at age 30.

I just am finding this all frustrating. We pigeonhole our younger players into the top 6 and then act shocked when they dont develop into top 6 talent. We will trade for a center, probably overpay, and then put him at 3C and be mad when he isnt worth his contract

 

[nullednumbed]

I don't think anyone can talk about a long term outlook because at every turn it looks like Trotz is trying to go in both directions at the same time.

Yep. I thought Braden Gall said it pretty well:

Individually, many of the moves are logical. But taken in totality, Trotz appears to have been caught off guard too many times by the results of key decisions.

Even the proven commodities - the expensive, big ticket free agents - haven’t fit into the system as expected.

Why give Wedgewood and Carrier $14.25 million worth of contracts? Either you settled for them or didn’t properly evaluate them. Either answer is troubling.

Spending over $100 million on players who may not fit into your head coach’s system after almost tasting a playoff series win could be viewed as reactionary. In hindsight, it could be percieved as desperate.

 

[PredsV82]

The Predators Have Already Seen Enough of Justin Barron and Make a Surprising Announcement

It didn't take long, but the Nashville Predators have clearly already seen enough of Justin Barron. They have already removed him from their regular lineup.

www.yardbarker.com

I'll say this our scouts are usually pretty good at scouting defenseman so it seems like this is another case of Bruno just deciding he's not gonna play the kid. What a shitshow

 

[101st_fan]

Desperate for clicks pseudo-news sites with pure speculation ... Habs fans writing fan fic.

When returning to 6 d-men, he was the logical choice to sit between him Wilsby and Blankenburg. Bruno wouldn't imagine sitting any of the others.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

The Predators Have Already Seen Enough of Justin Barron and Make a Surprising Announcement

It didn't take long, but the Nashville Predators have clearly already seen enough of Justin Barron. They have already removed him from their regular lineup.

www.yardbarker.com

I'll say this our scouts are usually pretty good at scouting defenseman so it seems like this is another case of Bruno just deciding he's not gonna play the kid. What a shitshow

They may not be wrong but the Preds don't play until tomorrow.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Yeah...these articles are crap. No news and just Habs fans/media deciding to dump on Baron and praise Carrier and the trade.

 

[herzausstein]

Can we please stop taking circle jerking habs fanfic as some sort of actual proof of anything

 

[101st_fan]

Can we please stop taking circle jerking habs fanfic as some sort of actual proof of anything

It's as real as Bruno's "system"

 

[HellOnIce]

Devils fan here, thoughts on moving ROR? Something y'all thinking about?

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Devils fan here, thoughts on moving ROR? Something y'all thinking about?

"We" might be thinking/talking about it but I highly doubt "they" are.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Devils fan here, thoughts on moving ROR? Something y'all thinking about?

We probably should, but I imagine he's probably at the top of the list for guys Trotz wants to keep around. For what it's worth, the only reason we should trade him is because it's clear we aren't contending any time soon, not because of how he's played. Some around here have been critical of him, and while he's not had a year like we wanted (nobody has) he shows up every night and busts his ass. I think he's a pretty big asset to any team and an even bigger one to a contending team wanting to make a run. I am a big fan of ROR and how he conducts himself. He's been given almost nothing to work with as linemates recently but still takes all the blame for how things have unfolded unlike anyone else on this team.

 

[HellOnIce]

We probably should, but I imagine he's probably at the top of the list for guys Trotz wants to keep around. For what it's worth, the only reason we should trade him is because it's clear we aren't contending any time soon, not because of how he's played. Some around here have been critical of him, and while he's not had a year like we wanted (nobody has) he shows up every night and busts his ass. I think he's a pretty big asset to any team and an even bigger one to a contending team wanting to make a run. I am a big fan of ROR and how he conducts himself. He's been giving almost nothing to work with as linemates recently but still takes all the blame for how things have unfolded unlike anyone else on this team.

I think that's what Devils fans are wondering. Still has it, but Nash might go into a retool and at his age, probably not going to contend with him. He'd have 3 runs left, which fits our window, and because of that - I think the Devils would seriously consider moving Simon Nemec for him.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

I think that's what Devils fans are wondering. Still has it, but Nash might go into a retool and at his age, probably not going to contend with him. He'd have 3 runs left, which fits our window, and because of that - I think the Devils would seriously consider moving Simon Nemec for him.

What gives on Nemec?

 

[HellOnIce]

What gives on Nemec?

He's coming along, had a great year last year, but with Hamilton Pesce and Kovacevic in there on the right side, he's being blocked and the team is doing well, so it's hard to get him in. (Edit Add: The idea was if he wasn't playing every night to get him minutes in the A and be called up...but to our luck (which we didn't have last year....we've had the same six D since October playing every night).

We also have Seamus Casey and Anton Silayev, and I think everyone's also looking at Quinn Hughes in 2 years FA to join Team Hughes. So if we have a window here for the next 3 playoff runs, I think a lot of are thinking what's going to put us over the top - and ROR at 3C for 3 runs seems like one of the few moves that would warrant trading that kind of asset.

 

[Kat Predator]

He's coming along, had a great year last year, but with Hamilton Pesce and Kovacevic in there on the right side, he's being blocked and the team is doing well, so it's hard to get him in. We also have Seamus Casey and Anton Silayev, and I think everyone's also looking at Quinn Hughes in 2 years FA to join Team Hughes. So if we have a window here for the next 3 playoff runs, I think a lot of are thinking what's going to put us over the top - and ROR at 3C for 3 runs seems like one of the few moves that would warrant trading that kind of asset.

Center is a position of weakness for the Predators, and GMBT loves ROR. There is apparently a thought process that things are going to "come together" soon, and it may take trading away more of the younger players. (Yes, like some video game strategy.) My wild guess would be if (big if) GMBT were to trade ROR, it would be closer to the TDL.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

He's coming along, had a great year last year, but with Hamilton Pesce and Kovacevic in there on the right side, he's being blocked and the team is doing well, so it's hard to get him in. We also have Seamus Casey and Anton Silayev, and I think everyone's also looking at Quinn Hughes in 2 years FA to join Team Hughes. So if we have a window here for the next 3 playoff runs, I think a lot of are thinking what's going to put us over the top - and ROR at 3C for 3 runs seems like one of the few moves that would warrant trading that kind of asset.

I mean, I'd certainly be willing to do that. If you take ROR off this team, I honestly don't even know who we play at center any more but we should be looking to rebuild this team anyways and that would certainly force things.

 

[Kat Predator]

I mean, I'd certainly be willing to do that. If you take ROR off this team, I honestly don't even know who we play at center any more but we should be looking to rebuild this team anyways and that would certainly force things.

If they traded ROR today, Stamkos might have to log 30+ minutes a game for the rest of the season or until he went on IR, whichever came first.

 

[herzausstein]

Trading RoR would work for me at this point. There really isnt a single vet i wouldnt be taking calls on right now. Would trotz trade him? Not unless it is part of a package for a younger center. Like i could see him being paired with something for a cozens like player or a good rhd prospect and we bank on getting a top 5 pick.