Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season II

[GoldOnGold]

From the Athletic today:

 

[ShagDaddy]

From the Athletic today:

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Brunette is Trotz’s guy. Trotz is annoyed with the armchair GM’s based off his comments on a recent 102.5 interview. Annoying armchair GM’s think Brunette should be fired for a better coach, screw those annoying Armchair GM’s.

 

[herzausstein]

From the Athletic today:

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My expectation is for us to have another top 5 pick next year

 

[Scoresberg]

From the Athletic today:

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oh well, I don't expect us to be THIS bad next year whether we changed coaches or not but it's pretty flattening to hear that going into next year. ALREADY I feel worse about next season..

 

[GoldOnGold]

Brunette is Trotz’s guy. Trotz is annoyed with the armchair GM’s based off his comments on a recent 102.5 interview. Annoying armchair GM’s think Brunette should be fired for a better coach, screw those annoying Armchair GM’s.

I'm glad it sounds like this team is being managed rationally and with a clear goal in mind!

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Brunette is Trotz’s guy. Trotz is annoyed with the armchair GM’s based off his comments on a recent 102.5 interview. Annoying armchair GM’s think Brunette should be fired for a better coach, screw those annoying Armchair GM’s.

What does Trotz have against arms? He doesn’t have a neck so he begrudges others with all their appendages?

 

[ShagDaddy]

I'm glad it sounds like this team is being managed rationally and with a clear goal in mind!

What is the clear goal?

 

[Preds Partisan]

From the Athletic today:

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Trotz is a dope.

 

[GoldOnGold]

What is the clear goal?

Sounds like making people online mad (it's working on me)

 

[glenngineer]

My expectation is for us to have another top 5 pick next year

My expectation might be finding another team to root for. I haven’t felt this much apathy towards a team. If Trotz truly feels that Bruno is the guy, I really don’t know what to say or think other than, if I’m going to invest 82 games worth of time, it’ll be for a team that is managed better than this.

 

[glenngineer]

He's not exactly soft. He has 100pim. To lead our team. Not like he's very effective with either his physicality or fighting. But he's willing. He knows what it will take for him to stick in the NHL, and he punches the clock on that requirement.

But end of the day, he still has 11 pts and is -18. He's just not an NHL level player, on skills/on-ice contribution alone.

So okay, if his "intangibles" raise the bar and you want to keep him around despite his lack of NHL talent... you can do that. Just... he should be the ONLY player on the entire roster you give that pass to. Carry 1 of these guys. Cut loose Smith, Lauzon, whoever else is not really an NHL player.

If he’s a character guy, a true fourth line guy, he would finish his checks. This is what I mean by soft. He’s 6’6” and avoids contact in most interactions. His job is to the set the tone and he doesn’t do it.

Trotz hitched his wagon to him, Smith and Jankowski, which meant Sherwood was gone. Maybe Sherwood wanted out. Who knows. Maybe he was pushed out. Who knows there too.

With that said, yes, we can have one player like this in the top 12, it doesn’t need to be McC. He has a punchable face and he uses it quite well bashing the fists of opposing players with it.

As much as I despise Smith, I’d rather him be in the lineup long before Mac.

 

[101st_fan]

Last season the 4th line filled their role and then some. It was the right mix to forecheck, get some tertiary scoring, and play the PK. This year the mix hasn't meshed ... Smith, McC, player of the day isn't a formula for success. But that is a problem for all of Bruno's lines. It took him a third of the season to play with the top line and get some production from it. He counted on Nyquist catching lightning in a bottle two seasons in a row and it didn't happen. The middle six has been a huge gap for both seasons under Bruno.

The coach needs to figure out how to combine players so they can all succeed in their role. Bruno struggles to do that.

 

[hockey diva]

Trotz is a fool and/or delusional. Everyone can see what disaster this season has been. Except him. And apparently Brunette is content getting a paycheck for doing a crappy job. This franchise will get moved within the next 5 years because of gross incompetence.

 

[Soundgarden]

Looks like we're tanking for McKenna, sucks that Pittsburgh will be with us.

 

[Predation]

Seems like Trotz is doubling down on “the plan”. I would hope that he would learn from his mistakes and make the necessary adjustments, but he doesn’t seem capable of that kind of humility.

 

[Viqsi]

Meanwhile I'm just sitting here thinking "yep, called it". From their perspective, it's this year that's the outlier, not last year. And like everyone else here I do not have high hopes for next year. Hoping that that's what'll show Trotz that he picked the wrong year as his outlier, but we'll see.

 

[glenngineer]

Meanwhile I'm just sitting here thinking "yep, called it". From their perspective, it's this year that's the outlier, not last year. And like everyone else here I do not have high hopes for next year. Hoping that that's what'll show Trotz that he picked the wrong year as his outlier, but we'll see.

Just bad puck luck is all

 

[Kat Predator]

Just bad puck luck is all

Two seasons of "bad puck luck" with a brief spurt of consistent winning aided by several guys having a career best (or near) season. Indeed that winning spurt was so unlikely to be repeated, Trotz himself went out and got Stamkos and Marchessault to help fill the net with goals.

We're just a couple of bounces away...

 

[Armourboy]

My initial thought is we won't be as bad next season, maybe still not good but not as bad. Then I look around and don't really see anyone that isn't already bad suddenly getting worse. No new teams that are going to be tearing it completely down, but then you are going to start seeing teams like San Jose get better so short of everyone coming out and having career years it will just be more of the same.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

My initial thought is we won't be as bad next season, maybe still not good but not as bad. Then I look around and don't really see anyone that isn't already bad suddenly getting worse. No new teams that are going to be tearing it completely down, but then you are going to start seeing teams like San Jose get better so short of everyone coming out and having career years it will just be more of the same.

We still have the same holes we needed to fill at the beginning of this season--2C (really a 1C and move ROR down, but that's wishful) and a top 4D. Except now we also need tonadd probably another top 4D and probably one more scorer (could be Molendyk and a prospect, but that also seems hopeful). If we do nothing to fill those, I think we do still end up pretty poor absent massive changes in coaching/system/deployments.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Marchessault today on his exit from Vegas, "And that's something that I really loved about Vegas - they're a hard team, a hard organization - they do everything what's best for their success," he said. "And despite anything, they always think of their success. And if one day I'm going to be a GM, I'm going to run things like that, too. I'm going to make the things that I need to do to become the best team on the ice. And I think that's one of their best qualities that they have."

That doesn’t seem to be how Preds do it…

 

[Armourboy]

We still have the same holes we needed to fill at the beginning of this season--2C (really a 1C and move ROR down, but that's wishful) and a top 4D. Except now we also need tonadd probably another top 4D and probably one more scorer (could be Molendyk and a prospect, but that also seems hopeful). If we do nothing to fill those, I think we do still end up pretty poor absent massive changes in coaching/system/deployments.

Well until Brunette learns you gotta mold your system to the players you have rather than forcing the system on players who can't play it, I'm not sure it matters what holes we fill.

I mean how many times this season have we looked at a game where the best forward on the ice that night ends up with 10 minutes or less because Brunette just refuses to play them.

I mean before we traded Novak he was basically the only guy at the time who was consistently scoring goals, and he was getting like 11 minutes a night. I mean even the other night Svechkov had two assits, was rocking and rolling and he gets 11 minutes.

I mean if the coach can't figure out that sometimes you go with the guy with the hot hand rather than the guy you would rather play then there isn't much hope for him.

I'm going to be interested to see what we hear out of the end of season meetings. I can't see guys like Marchy, ROR, and Stamkos keeping complaints to themselves.

 

[Armourboy]

Marchessault today on his exit from Vegas, "And that's something that I really loved about Vegas - they're a hard team, a hard organization - they do everything what's best for their success," he said. "And despite anything, they always think of their success. And if one day I'm going to be a GM, I'm going to run things like that, too. I'm going to make the things that I need to do to become the best team on the ice. And I think that's one of their best qualities that they have."

That doesn’t seem to be how Preds do it…

We've never really done that, at least not as cut throat as Vegas anyways. Loyalty to the organization was a pretty big thing Poile would reward, of course he would move you out pretty quick too if he wasn't getting that from players as well.

That said if Poile thought a move was definitely going to make the team better he would move you in a heartbeat, example being trading Weber for Subban.

I think Trotz's biggest issue is he is still thinking too much like a coach. He makes moves based on how he would view it if he was coaching, what he wished GM's would have done for him when he was a coach. Sometimes as a coach you need to be saved from yourself because they have a tendency to play favorites and you get guys playing way more minutes or in spots they shouldn't be because of it. Good example there would be Lavi and Jarnkrok.

 

[hockey diva]

This front office is a joke and I am not hopeful Haslam will see what is wrong.

 

[beardawg]

Any truth to Wood joining the team for the stretch??