Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season II

[Flgatorguy87]

Maybe I am dumb, but I still think this is a playoff team this year if we started with the right coach/system. I have no way to ever prove that, but the sum of the parts is absolutely far less than it should be.

 

[Scoresberg]

Maybe I am dumb, but I still think this is a playoff team this year if we started with the right coach/system. I have no way to ever prove that, but the sum of the parts is absolutely far less than it should be.

Yeah, I'll come right out and admit that I thought all up until like 2-3 weeks ago that this team could turn this around and start pushing for the playoffs.

I don't recall the exact moment I knew they weren't going to turn it around anymore this year, but I do believe I fast turn-around and playing for a playoff spot is POSSIBLE for this team next year. I'm just not at all convinced the guy in charge is the right man to lead that successful turn-around..

 

[ShagDaddy]

im still not on the shoot Trotz into the Sun phase yet. I liked the off season moves. The only move that I view as a complete and utter Charlie Foxtrot is Fabbro. While I’m not fond of the transactions with some of the younger players, those moves aren’t damaging to the team long term. Those players were depth players and probably not going to be considered core players here or for any team they go to in the future. That being said, if he doesn’t fire Brunette immediately after the season and bring in a new coach to get ready for the draft, I’ll aim the cannon myself and supply the powder and fuse from my personal stock.

 

[Armourboy]

Yeah, I'll come right out and admit that I thought all up until like 2-3 weeks ago that this team could turn this around and start pushing for the playoffs.

I don't recall the exact moment I knew they weren't going to turn it around anymore this year, but I do believe I fast turn-around and playing for a playoff spot is POSSIBLE for this team next year. I'm just not at all convinced the guy in charge is the right man to lead that successful turn-around..

I've been saying since about Thanksgiving that it was over but even I think the team itself isn't that far off from being a playoff team. Our problem is the coaching staff and how these players are all being used. Ultimately I think the reason Trotz does let Brunette go is because in the back of his mind he is looking at this roster and thinking to himself that he would have no issue making the playoffs with it. I think he also sees that nothing has really gotten better all season.

I also don't think he is stupid. He can see what tickets are selling for every night and how many empty seats there are and know if he doesn't do something the owners are going to be pretty unhappy with that pretty quickly.

 

[jumb0]

The actual headline from The Athletic on the Wild claiming Hinostroza

Wild claim veteran forward Vinnie Hinostroza off waivers from Nashville: Why?​

 

[glenngineer]

People are confusing elite offensive defenseman with elite puck-moving defenseman.

In most cases, teams that win a Cup have an elite defenseman that is solid defensively, scores over 50 points and is smart and tactical with how they handle the puck. They should be paired with a solid stay at home type that compliments their style of play that can also bring a bit of a physical presence.

Teams that also win Cups seem to have a three-headed monster of sorts on D, where one of them is always on the ice. It leads to better outcomes. In some cases, you have a four-headed monster, much like we did in our Cup run. Those are a little harder to come by but the Kings had one with Doughty, Martinez, Nordstrom and Muzzin. The Hawks had that for a year when Campbell was still there but they adjusted to the three-headed variety.

Vegas, while they were very good their first year, lacked a true number 1 and when they got to the Finals, it really showed. Once they landed some elite players up front and Pietrangelo on D did they finally take that final leap. Tampa had the three-headed variety with Hedman, McD, and Shergachev with some good depth with Cernak and a few others.

It comes down to balance and guys that can eat a lot of minutes at a high level, which is why elite players at F and D are so freaking valuable. We can sit here and bash on Josi all we want but he's the least of our worries on D, slots 2-6 are not where they need to be, no matter how much we like guys like Wilsby and Stastney.

 

[herzausstein]

The actual headline from The Athletic on the Wild claiming Hinostroza

Wild claim veteran forward Vinnie Hinostroza off waivers from Nashville: Why?​

Probably pressbox filler while Hartman is suspended. I imagine he will be back on waivers soon enough

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

The Mild love them some former Preds.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

People are confusing elite offensive defenseman with elite puck-moving defenseman.

In most cases, teams that win a Cup have an elite defenseman that is solid defensively, scores over 50 points and is smart and tactical with how they handle the puck. They should be paired with a solid stay at home type that compliments their style of play that can also bring a bit of a physical presence.

Teams that also win Cups seem to have a three-headed monster of sorts on D, where one of them is always on the ice. It leads to better outcomes. In some cases, you have a four-headed monster, much like we did in our Cup run. Those are a little harder to come by but the Kings had one with Doughty, Martinez, Nordstrom and Muzzin. The Hawks had that for a year when Campbell was still there but they adjusted to the three-headed variety.

Vegas, while they were very good their first year, lacked a true number 1 and when they got to the Finals, it really showed. Once they landed some elite players up front and Pietrangelo on D did they finally take that final leap. Tampa had the three-headed variety with Hedman, McD, and Shergachev with some good depth with Cernak and a few others.

It comes down to balance and guys that can eat a lot of minutes at a high level, which is why elite players at F and D are so freaking valuable. We can sit here and bash on Josi all we want but he's the least of our worries on D, slots 2-6 are not where they need to be, no matter how much we like guys like Wilsby and Stastney.

Josi was #3 on the finals team. The PP has never been good with him as the PP1 Dman. What has he done since then from a team standpoint?

What did Karlsson and Burnes do for SJ?

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I remember I said this during the free agent madness: if you are pushing all your chips in the middle (which Trotz did) to be competitive this year he better not miss or it would set the franchise back.

I was just so wrong about the window being wide open.

I'm just praying we somehow when the lottery or at least get to pick 3

 

[Armourboy]

I remember I said this during the free agent madness: if you are pushing all your chips in the middle (which Trotz did) to be competitive this year he better not miss or it would set the franchise back.

I was just so wrong about the window being wide open.

I'm just praying we somehow when the lottery or at least get to pick 3

I'm hoping it ends up being a blessing in disguise. Basically a way for us to get our rebuild without Trotz feeling like he did an actual rebuild.