Name a team with worse asset management than COL.

[Raistlin]

Who do I want my GM to trade with?

1. Kevyn Adams
2. Was Rob Blake... up until 1 day ago.



the rest.

 

[bert]

Colarado went from having one of the most rich and deepest pool of players in Kadri, Rantanen, and Bowen Byram, to cheap depth pieces.

- The AVS chose to not re-sign Nazem Kadri as their #2C for 7 Million.
- Than, they traded a #1/2D in Bowen Byram for 6$ Million #2C Casey Middlestadt
- Now, they didn't want to pay Rantanen an extra 500k per year, and, instead traded him for Martin Necas.


It seems like the AVS front office thought they were playing 4D Chess by nickle and diming their core pieces in Kadri, Rantanen, and, managing the asset in Bowen Byram.

This has to be one of the most negligent waste of assets in recent history. Name a worse display of asset management.

Edmonton Oilers Holloway and Broberg. Imagine how good they would be if they just matched.

Kinda similar situations actually.

Pierre Dorions asset management while the sens were still bad in the middle of a rebuild with Debrincat and Chychrun trades deserves a mention. Imagine where the sens would have been if Andlauer bought the team 3 years earlier.

Personally I think Dubas is by far the worst active GM. Thank god the MLSE choose him over Hunter. Wow they would have been way better for way longer. Ironically also involved massive mismanagement with Kadri as well.

 

[Stealth JD]

The Kings turned…

Vilardi
Iafallo
Durzi
Faber
Roy
Walker
Petersen
Kupari
Grans
2022 first round pick

Into…

Fiala
Kuemper
2 years of Provorov’s retained contract

I came in here to nominate the Kings; but it's even worse than i thought as evidenced by this list. Good grief. Blake should have been able to build a juggernaut with all of those assets.

 

[North]

The Kings turned…

Vilardi
Iafallo
Durzi
Faber
Roy
Walker
Petersen
Kupari
Grans
2022 first round pick

Into…

Fiala
Kuemper
2 years of Provorov’s retained contract

Blake should have been punted a long time ago.

 

[Ulysses31]

Recent examples of worse asset management than COL:

Dubas in Toronto.
Dubas in Pittsburgh.

what bad moves did he make in pittsburgh?

 

[ExarKun80]

 

[Stopper33]

Rantanen didn't ask for 14-16M lol why do you make stuff up? The market for him also didn't dry up. Lol Carolina offered 12.5M and Toronto reportedly 13M.

Rantanen's camp asked for 13M based on some sources. Colorado based their 11M~ on Pastrnaks 11.25M deal. But if Pastrnak made the same deal under the new salary cap he made in 2019, he would make 12.8M. So Colorado indirectly confirmed Rantanen was worth the same as Pastrnak which under the rising salary cap would be closer to 13M.

Source:

Everything I've heard, was the Draisaitl contract was the ask. We'll never know, but I followed it as tightly as one could.

 

[Satanphonehome]

Buffalo had 21 1st-round picks — including 2 #1s and 2 #2 overalls, and 10 top 10 picks total — during the past 14-years with zero playoff appearances.

They also had and 21 2nds over that span.

 

[Mattilaus]

They have had quite good assets though, but somehow play at 60% of their potential when in a Sabres jersey.

Does that not directly speak to their poor management of those assets?

 

[Satanphonehome]

Buffalo had 21 1st-round picks — including 2 #1s and 2 #2 overalls, and 10 top 10 picks total — during the past 14-years with zero playoff appearances.

They also had and 21 2nds over that span.

Had they kept all their picks:

Hagel Eichel Reinhart
Peterka Mittelstadt Cozens
Benson Compher Quinn
Girgenson Kulich Lemieux
Olofsson Kozak Asplund

Dahlin Ristolainen
Power Zadorov
McCabe Borgen
Samuelsson

Ullmark
Luukkonen
Johansson

 

[Lemontree]

what bad moves did he make in pittsburgh?

Off the top of my head:

Contracts given to Jarry and Graves.
Trading for Erik Karlsson ($10M cap hit with multiple years left).
Jake Guentzel trade (didn't have cap space to resign him - due to the genius moves listed above).

Just like in Toronto, there is no correlation in his moves or roster construction.
If you look at his moves, one week its trade/sign established player (usually overpayment - contract) which appears to fall in line with the "go for it" tactic, Crosby, Malkin and Letang are aging out that does seem to make the most sense.
The next week its take on players cap hit (see Kevin Hayes) or move out established player to gain a draft pick. These moves are in exact opposition to each other in terms of what the roster/team is trying to achieve.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

They also gave up assets for Ryan Lindgren and there's actually a chance they win game 7 if a replacement level player is in that spot instead of him.

Sounds like old grudges die hard

 

[Machinehead]

Sounds like old grudges die hard

Tell me where I'm wrong.

 

[BFLO]

Had they kept all their picks:

Hagel Eichel Reinhart
Peterka Mittelstadt Cozens
Benson Compher Quinn
Girgenson Kulich Lemieux
Olofsson Kozak Asplund

Dahlin Ristolainen
Power Zadorov
McCabe Borgen
Samuelsson

Ullmark
Luukkonen
Johansson

You forgot Brayden McNabb and I'd say Evan Rodrigues should count even though he was undrafted.

 

[Satanphonehome]

You forgot Brayden McNabb and I'd say Evan Rodrigues should count even though he was undrafted.

McNabb (and Myers and Foligno and probably more) all predated the drought, but your point stands.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

what bad moves did he make in pittsburgh?

Jarry contract, Karlsson has disappointed, some other stuff I'm forgetting

Pittsburgh is in a weird place though, playing out the string til 87 and 71 retire. Trying to keep the building full while also starting to stock a barren farm system.

Any hope they had of pulling off a Caps-like retool was preempted by the atrocious asset management of the last few GM's, from 2018 onwards.

For all his flaws, Dubas doesn't really belong in this thread IMO

 

[ItWasJustified]

Trading for Erik Karlsson ($10M cap hit with multiple years left).

It's not Dubas fault that Sullivan is a dummy and never made the connection between Karlsson having a 100 point season when he was clear cut nr 1 defenseman and Karlsson having 22 and 35 point seasons while sharing nr D time with Burns and playing Letang more minutes than Karlsson. It's Dubas fault for not making that connection too, sure, but the trade itself wasn't bad.

 

[edevils]

NJ is pretty bad at drafting depth players to compliment the core.

The D looks promising (Casey, Nemec, Hughes), but the depth forwards need a change.

 

[olli]

How have we gotten this far without someone posting LAs trade trees

 

[24 others]

I am not a COL fan but I should point out two things:

1. The COL-DAL series went to game 7 and it was a bounce away from going the other way.

2. Rantanen went on a crazy heater and everyone and their dog knows it's not sustainable.

I smell overreaction.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Gainey once let 8 players walk for literally nothing and missed the playoffs. Let's not even talk about his moves.

 

[the_fan]

Avs have made exactly 2 mistakes since the cup win in 2022 and they’re paying for it right now.

1. Not re-signing Kadri
2. Trading Rantanen

It’s not the quantity of mistakes, it’s the quality