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Proposal: MTL-PIT

You didn't watch Xhekaj this year. He's way more than a tough guy

He's playing 15:23 a night against the 2nd easiest competition of all Montreal defensemen (according to Dobber Sports, only Struble has had easier competition), while he has 5 points in 38 games.

He is objectively just a tough guy bottom pair D.
 
He's playing 15:23 a night against the 2nd easiest competition of all Montreal defensemen (according to Dobber Sports, only Struble has had easier competition), while he has 5 points in 38 games.

He is objectively just a tough guy bottom pair D.
Yes, he's a bottom pair dman and he's doing really fine. Not just a tough guy like I said
 
He's playing 15:23 a night against the 2nd easiest competition of all Montreal defensemen (according to Dobber Sports, only Struble has had easier competition), while he has 5 points in 38 games.

He is objectively just a tough guy bottom pair D.

Xhekaj is a young and reliable/good 3rd bottom pairing guy
He also happens to be one of the toughest MoFos in the league, one of the guy most other players don't f*** with. He's keeping peace on ice and shield our players by just being there. He's 23 and already has a body count.
We can sport players like Caufield and Hutson, because if they are attacked, Xhekaj will murder your best player. And we know he'll do it, he went after Stützle earlier this year because one other Sens was a bitch and run away from the beating Xhekaj had to gave him.

Montréal doesn't trade him
 
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Yes, he's a bottom pair dman and he's doing really fine. Not just a tough guy like I said

My post said he was a bottom pair tough guy, so I don't know why you're disagreeing with me.

We agree on what he is, which is why I said I can see why he'd have appeal around the league. My point was that Mike Sullivan hates those fighter types, so Xhekaj would be in Sullivan's doghouse super fast. Same exact thing happened with Oleksiak when he played for the Penguins.
 
My post said he was a bottom pair tough guy, so I don't know why you're disagreeing with me.

We agree on what he is, which is why I said I can see why he'd have appeal around the league. My point was that Mike Sullivan hates those fighter types, so Xhekaj would be in Sullivan's doghouse super fast. Same exact thing happened with Oleksiak when he played for the Penguins.
My point is that even if Xhekaj didn't fight, he would still be a servicable bottom pairing dman right now and have showed that he can potentially be more than that so I don't see why he would be in Sullivan's doghouse just because he drop the gloves from time to time. And his TOI isn't dictating his overall performence on the ice. MSL play his top4 alot. Kovacevic played 3min less in MTL than in NJ. Everyone who watched Xhekaj this year know that he should get more ice time.
 
He's playing 15:23 a night against the 2nd easiest competition of all Montreal defensemen (according to Dobber Sports, only Struble has had easier competition), while he has 5 points in 38 games.

He is objectively just a tough guy bottom pair D.
Is he going to play over Guhle or Hutson?
Someone has to be the number 3 of the trio.A young physical defenseman who is progressing just fine.
 
Only if you value rackell exclusively off his career year half season he's having and not on the rest of his 700+ game career. He's a good second liner, not a consistent 40 goal scorer. He hasn't broken 30 goals in 7 seasons and he was only half a point per game last season. Let's not go nuts.

Rackell was injured last year and never really got his legs back under him until the second half of the year, but during that second half he put up a ppg that was within statistical norms. He had like 28 or 29 goals his first full year as a penguin, and once upon a time, before the ducks was completely void of talent, he had two or three 30 plus goal years.

30 goals are not unheard of from him. Even with a few bad years on bad ducks teams when he was younger I'd bet he still averages over 20 goals and over 50 points in his career, and I'd guess there are teams who will have top line wingers who don't put up the numbers rackell will this year.

The pens can do better than darch, who a lot of people called (at best) a reach at 3rd overall and at worst an out right wasted pick in that spot if the decide to move rackell this year. Since he was drafted 3rd overall he's gotta be labeled a bust at this point, one who can't stay healthy. Plus he makes over 3 mil a year. Jesus, Pono would probably put up similar, if not better stats, if given 2nd line minutes on Montreal this season.

Montreal should be ecstatic if someone offered a third for darch just to open that cap space down the line.

What value X has, which I'm sorry isn't a 20-30 goals scorer, a good prospect, and a 3rd is actually brought down by adding darch to the deal.

You add X to darch to dump darch.
 
Rackell was injured last year and never really got his legs back under him until the second half of the year, but during that second half he put up a ppg that was within statistical norms. He had like 28 or 29 goals his first full year as a penguin, and once upon a time, before the ducks was completely void of talent, he had two or three 30 plus goal years.

30 goals are not unheard of from him. Even with a few bad years on bad ducks teams when he was younger I'd bet he still averages over 20 goals and over 50 points in his career, and I'd guess there are teams who will have top line wingers who don't put up the numbers rackell will this year.

The pens can do better than darch, who a lot of people called (at best) a reach at 3rd overall and at worst an out right wasted pick in that spot if the decide to move rackell this year. Since he was drafted 3rd overall he's gotta be labeled a bust at this point, one who can't stay healthy. Plus he makes over 3 mil a year. Jesus, Pono would probably put up similar, if not better stats, if given 2nd line minutes on Montreal this season.

Montreal should be ecstatic if someone offered a third for darch just to open that cap space down the line.

What value X has, which I'm sorry isn't a 20-30 goals scorer, a good prospect, and a 3rd is actually brought down by adding darch to the deal.

You add X to darch to dump darch.
Way too much NHL2000 in your diet. The trade is a joke...no matter how much you try to sell it.

Bye
 
Rackell was injured last year and never really got his legs back under him until the second half of the year, but during that second half he put up a ppg that was within statistical norms. He had like 28 or 29 goals his first full year as a penguin, and once upon a time, before the ducks was completely void of talent, he had two or three 30 plus goal years.

30 goals are not unheard of from him. Even with a few bad years on bad ducks teams when he was younger I'd bet he still averages over 20 goals and over 50 points in his career, and I'd guess there are teams who will have top line wingers who don't put up the numbers rackell will this year.

The pens can do better than darch, who a lot of people called (at best) a reach at 3rd overall and at worst an out right wasted pick in that spot if the decide to move rackell this year. Since he was drafted 3rd overall he's gotta be labeled a bust at this point, one who can't stay healthy. Plus he makes over 3 mil a year. Jesus, Pono would probably put up similar, if not better stats, if given 2nd line minutes on Montreal this season.

Montreal should be ecstatic if someone offered a third for darch just to open that cap space down the line.

What value X has, which I'm sorry isn't a 20-30 goals scorer, a good prospect, and a 3rd is actually brought down by adding darch to the deal.

You add X to darch to dump darch.

You clearly haven't been watching any Habs games.

Xhekaj has actually been very good in the last 4-5 weeks, he's broken out of his shell and playing some very solid hockey.

Xhekaj's no world-beater, but he's a toolsy, tough, young, physical third-pairing defenseman with a very cheap contract, more potential to grow into, AND also at least 3 more years of team control left.

Let's just say that those types of players don't get traded very often as they are almost always way more valuable to their teams than they'd return in a trade.

As for Dach, well, he was absolute hot garbage to start the year but he's been steadily improving since mid-December. And as long as that keeps up and he plays well on a second line it's very hard to trade him.
 
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