Value of: MTL/NYI (Horvat) - MTL/LAK (Danault)

[Junohockeyfan]

You don't trade away 1C
We also feel bad, benefiting from such an favorable offer.
I can't bring myself to trade a 3C for a 1C, i care to much about you guys.

You don’t trade away a 1C who is entering his prime on a sweet long term contract. That is fo shizzle home fry!

 

[FSL KINGS]

Suzuki was a key to Habs cup run a few years back and thanks to suze, the Habs rebuild accelerated this season.

Byfield has done fuxk all! An average 2C.

If Kings had Suzuki, you would have made it past the Oilers!

20-21 Finals
Danault leaves

3 seasons missed playoffs
1 win this year in the playoffs

Suzuki hasn't been up to much since Danault left.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

20-21 Finals
Danault leaves

3 seasons missed playoffs
1 win this year in the playoffs

Suzuki hasn't been up to much since Danault left.

Habs were rebuilding. And accomplished as much as the Kings who have done squat since then. And now Kings may have to rebuild due to failure after failure… or relocate.

 

[malcb33]

So he's on about the same pace as Kempe.

So, like one of your best players, while being the top defensive (or one of the top) forwards on his team, and all of that equals not doing much...? I asked you to define what you think "not doing a whole lot" is, but you seem to avoid the question. Why is that?

A 30 goal season, with 89 points this year, makes him 14th in the league in points, and 6th most points by a centre. And somehow that equates to "not doing a whole lot". So, what is your standard then?

BTW, Adrian Kempe was the Kings top offensive producer with 73 points this year.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Habs were rebuilding. And accomplished as much as the Kings who have done squat since then. And now Kings may have to rebuild due to failure after failure… or relocate.

Why would the King's relocate? They're close to overtaking Montreal in earned revenue. Quite possible for the King's to catch them this season.

Yup, both teams are Playoff Pretenders. Got us there.

 

[FSL KINGS]

So, like one of your best players, while being the top defensive (or one of the top) forwards on his team, and all of that equals not doing much...? I asked you to define what you think "not doing much" is, but you seem to avoid the question. Why is that?

A 30 goal season, with 89 points this year, makes him 14th in the league in points, and 6th most points by a centre. And somehow that equates to "not doing much". So, what is your standard then?

BTW, Adrian Kempe was the Kings top offensive producer with 73 points this year.

One Playoff win in 4 years isn't doing much.

 

[NYRnine94]

So, like one of your best players, while being the top defensive (or one of the top) forwards on his team, and all of that equals not doing much...? I asked you to define what you think "not doing a whole lot" is, but you seem to avoid the question. Why is that?

A 30 goal season, with 89 points this year, makes him 14th in the league in points, and 6th most points by a centre. And somehow that equates to "not doing a whole lot". So, what is your standard then?

BTW, Adrian Kempe was the Kings top offensive producer with 73 points this year.

I don't think he realized how good a year Suzuki had so now he's like damn lmao resorted to the playoff argument

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Why would the King's relocate? They're close to overtaking Montreal in earned revenue. Quite possible for the King's to catch them this season.

Yup, both teams are Playoff Pretenders. Got us there.

One team is desperately trying to compete (Kings) while the other is near the end of a successful rebuild (Habs).

Pretenders = Kings in this scenario.

Once the Kings hit the skids this year, the revenues will plummet as is what happens with all fair weathered fan bases. Meanwhile, in the middle of a rebuild and losing seasons, the Habs sell out the Bell Center.

Yup, one franchise may be in dire straits soon. But i am pulling for the Kings to hang in there.

 

[FSL KINGS]

I don't think he realized how good a year Suzuki had so now he's like damn lmao resorted to the playoff argument

Suzuki is just a mid to low end 1C that produces like other top six players like Kempe. If King's are trading Byfield it's Byfield+ for a large upgrade not Suzuki. Also points are not the end all measurement with how large an impact a player has.

Edit: Suzuki racked up a bunch of points on a bad team. Great!

One team is desperately trying to compete (Kings) while the other is near the end of a successful rebuild (Habs).

Pretenders = Kings in this scenario.

Once the Kings hit the skids this year, the revenues will plummet as is what happens with all fair weathered fan bases. Meanwhile, in the middle of a rebuild and losing seasons, the Habs sell out the Bell Center.

Yup, one franchise may be in dire straits soon. But i am pulling for the Kings to hang in there.

You don't understand the palm tree hockey market.

 

[unicornpig]

Habs were rebuilding. And accomplished as much as the Kings who have done squat since then. And now Kings may have to rebuild due to failure after failure… or relocate.

seems like the habs have been rebuilding forever. barely squeaked in the playoffs with a shit eastern confernce this year hahhaa.

 

[unicornpig]

One team is desperately trying to compete (Kings) while the other is near the end of a successful rebuild (Habs).

Pretenders = Kings in this scenario.

Once the Kings hit the skids this year, the revenues will plummet as is what happens with all fair weathered fan bases. Meanwhile, in the middle of a rebuild and losing seasons, the Habs sell out the Bell Center.

Yup, one franchise may be in dire straits soon. But i am pulling for the Kings to hang in there.

successful rebuild? team full of smurfs. that only can make the playoffs when all the teams in the east are bad

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Suzuki is just a mid to low end 1C that produces like other top six players like Kempe. If King's are trading Byfield it's Byfield+ for a large upgrade not Suzuki. Also points are not the end all measurement with how large an impact a player has.

Edit: Suzuki racked up a bunch of points on a bad team. Great!

You don't understand the palm tree hockey market.

If Suzuki is a mid to low end 1C, why did he produce Top 6 points as a C?

Using math and logic, you would equate Suzuki as a top tier centerman based on his production along. And that's ignoring the fact that he is an excellent two-way C.

Kempe meanwhile is a winger. Maybe you didn't know that? But yeah, why compare a winger to a 1C? Do you know understand the different forward positions in Hockey?

Just in case:

The C is a skater that plays between two wingers. Each winger is assigned a side, referred as Left Side or Right Side winger. For short we say Left Wing or Right Wing. C is a challenging position to play as it requires defensive awareness. Whereas, a player like Kempe can be one-dimensional and absolutely suck in his own zone. Not saying he sucks. But just saying.

Man, palm tree hockey markets are not very knowledgeable. ;

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

seems like the habs have been rebuilding forever. barely squeaked in the playoffs with a shit eastern confernce this year hahhaa.

the hell are you talking about? Habs went to the finals in 2021 and started the rebuild right after. It has been 4 years and our rebuild is much more far along then others that have been rebuilding for years and years.

 

[malcb33]

One Playoff win in 4 years isn't doing much.

You understand that Montreal has been rebuilding and has just as many playoff series wins in the last 4 years as the Kings, who are trying to compete...

But we're talking about your statement regarding Suzuki "not doing much" since Danault left, which I've shown you to be false, and now you're changing the subject.

Just take the "L" dude because you're making yourself look foolish now.

 

[Baksfamous112]

So he's on about the same pace as Kempe.

I was not aware Kempe paced for 89 points this year? Or are we going to say that 16 points isn’t that big of a deal over a full season?

Edit: Kings haven’t had a single PPG (82 points +) player since 2017-2018. No wonder he’s salty

 

[unicornpig]

the hell are you talking about? Habs went to the finals in 2021 and started the rebuild right after. It has been 4 years and our rebuild is much more far along then others that have been rebuilding for years and years.

4 years in and they still barely squeaked into the playoffs. worse than i thought haha

 

[NYRnine94]

Lmao 25 year old center putting up 89 points is not doing much? Alrighty then

 

[FSL KINGS]

If Suzuki is a mid to low end 1C, why did he produce Top 6 points as a C?

Using math and logic, you would equate Suzuki as a top tier centerman based on his production along. And that's ignoring the fact that he is an excellent two-way C.

Kempe meanwhile is a winger. Maybe you didn't know that? But yeah, why compare a winger to a 1C? Do you know understand the different forward positions in Hockey?

Just in case:

The C is a skater that plays between two wingers. Each winger is assigned a side, referred as Left Side or Right Side winger. For short we say Left Wing or Right Wing. C is a challenging position to play as it requires defensive awareness. Whereas, a player like Kempe can be one-dimensional and absolutely suck in his own zone. Not saying he sucks. But just saying.

Man, palm tree hockey markets are not very knowledgeable. ;

You missed the times Kempe actually took shifts on defense this year. Looks like you don't know what you're talking about.

You understand that Montreal has been rebuilding and has just as many playoff series wins in the last 4 years as the Kings, who are trying to compete...

But we're talking about your statement regarding Suzuki "not doing much" since Danault left, which I've shown you to be false, and now you're changing the subject.

Just take the "L" dude because you're making yourself look foolish now.

Suzuki has done great at the regular season. He should get a participation award.

I was not aware Kempe paced for 89 points this year? Or are we going to say that 16 points isn’t that big of a deal over a full season?

Edit: Kings haven’t had a single PPG (82 points +) player since 2017-2018. No wonder he’s salty

Repeat after me, The regular season doesn't matter.

Anyways, still not trading Byfield for Suzuki. It's fine. Y'all like him, feel free to keep him.

 

[NYRnine94]

Suzuki is just a mid to low end 1C that produces like other top six players like Kempe. If King's are trading Byfield it's Byfield+ for a large upgrade not Suzuki. Also points are not the end all measurement with how large an impact a player has.

Edit: Suzuki racked up a bunch of points on a bad team. Great!

You don't understand the palm tree hockey market.

I mean, that "bad team" went as far as your team did lmao

 

[Junohockeyfan]

You missed the times Kempe actually took shifts on defense this year. Looks like you don't know what you're talking about.



Suzuki has done great at the regular season. He should get a participation award.




Repeat after me, The regular season doesn't matter.

Anyways, still not trading Byfield for Suzuki. It's fine. Y'all like him, feel free to keep him.

Ignoring the stupidity re: Kempe and Kings lack of plaoff success…. If Suzuki was available, Kings would offer up the lesser Byfield and runaway laughing. Luckily Hughes is not an idiot.

Byfield may not even end up a C. He played alot of wing with the Kings.

And a reminder that Wing is a forward position that is not a C. much like kempe!

 

[MVP Zacha]

I see we have gotten to the point like all Montreal trade threads where Habs fans start insulting the other teams fans, players, geographical location and team history. Never change HF, never change.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Repeat after me, The regular season doesn't matter.

Anyways, still not trading Byfield for Suzuki. It's fine. Y'all like him, feel free to keep him.

The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.
The regular season doesn't matter.

I repeated 8 times. That’s the amount of consecutive first round exit L.A had in a row.

 

[FSL KINGS]

I mean, that "bad team" went as far as your team did lmao

Yes, the King's had a great regular season, but a bad season overall because they flamed out in the first round. That 105 point regular season doesn't mean a lot now.

Ignoring the stupidity re: Kempe and Kings lack of plaoff success…. If Suzuki was available, Kings would offer up the lesser Byfield and runaway laughing. Luckily Hughes is not an idiot.

Byfield may not even end up a C. He played alot of wing with the Kings.

And a reminder that Wing is a forward position that is not a C. much like kempe!

We may see Kempe tried at C in the not too distant future. He's not there because his speed & scoring off the rush is more important for the team. He is very good at tradition defense. May have been covering for Kopi there most of the year because Kopi is slowing down.

Byfield may not end up at center? It's clear you don't watch King's games & haven't kept up with Byfield's progression through the year.

 

[NYRnine94]

Yes, the King's had a great regular season, but a bad season overall because they flamed out in the first round. That 105 point regular season doesn't mean a lot now.


We may see Kempe tried at C in the not too distant future. He's not there because his speed & scoring off the rush is more important for the team. He is very good at tradition defense. May have been covering for Kopi there most of the year because Kopi is slowing down.

Byfield may not end up at center? It's clear you don't watch King's games & haven't kept up with Byfield's progression through the year.

You said Suzuki put up points on a bad team but the Kings and Montreal both lost in round 1. Does that make the Kings bad too?

 

[ole ole]

I see we have gotten to the point like all Montreal trade threads where Habs fans start insulting the other teams fans, players, geographical location and team history. Never change HF, never change.

No some are just responding what others have started like ALWAYS.