Speculation: MTL exploring acquiring Lafreniere from NYR

[Homelander]

There won't be any Montreal and NYR trades as long as Gorton is still with the Habs. He's not making any deals with the franchise that punted him for Drury.

He could always try to take advantage of Drury because...well, everyone else has

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Cuylle is not on the table. The Rangers need more Cuylles.

Come onnnnnn

I'll be your friend

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Outside of not getting the PP time of an elite offensive player - my understanding being that he hasn’t performed well on the PP - what part of Lafrenière’s deployment indicates he hasn’t been put in a position to succeed the last couple seasons? Sincere question.

I dunno that he's really had the opportunity to perform well on the PP. Don't think he's had a single season where he's been on the 1st unit.

But the last two seasons he's been Top 3 in even strength production.

I think overall, there's a massive management issue in NYR. It's been a little over a year and we've seen Goodrow and Trouba strong-armed out of their NTCs, (To the apparent chagrin of others) Kakko and Jones have requested trades, (One accomplished) and De Haan go to the media openly bitching about the way he was treated.

 

[jfhabs]

Cuylle is not on the table. The Rangers need more Cuylles.

Who doesn't need more Cuylles

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Drouin PTSD aside, there’s nothing crazy bad about that contract. Especially with how the caps rising. As long as they don’t do something stupid like trade Reinbacher (mcdonagh, sergachev mistakes all over again)

 

[ole ole]

The only Laf to Montreal deal that makes sense for the Rangers involves Guhle coming back. Don’t know if Montreal can, or should, do that. But if we are talking about a deal that helps the Rangers, it probably has to involve Guhle. Anything else is doing Montreal a favor.

There's no chance that the Habs trade Guhle to add Laf. It's laughable to even suggest it.
One of the Habs 1st rd pick and a prospect is the best i would offer. Don't like it look elsewhere.

 

[habsfan44]

According to Tony Marinaro. He’s not the type of guy who put those things out in the open unless there’s smoke.

I don't know why a team that needs a 2nd. line center & a top four right shot defender would target an overpaid winger . This isn't the drone we're looking for , pass !

 

[Savant]

There's no chance that the Habs trade Guhle to add Laf. It's laughable to even suggest it.

The point of this thread, created by Habs fans, is ‘what would the Habs have to trade to get Lafreniere’.

Rightfully or wrongfully, The Rangers don’t want futures; they just paid Mike Sullivan to be one of if not the highest paid coaches in the league. They aren’t rebuilding.

Guhle is the piece that the Habs have that would appeal to the Rangers in a Lafreniere trade. It’s equally laughable that the Rangers would take scraps and magic beans

 

[ole ole]

The point of this thread, created by Habs fans, is ‘what would the Habs have to trade to get Lafreniere’.

Rightfully or wrongfully, The Rangers don’t want futures; they just paid Mike Sullivan to be one of if not the highest paid coaches in the league. They aren’t rebuilding.

Guhle is the piece that the Habs have that would appeal to the Rangers in a Lafreniere trade. It’s equally laughable that the Rangers would take scraps and magic beans

I don't care who they hired for a coach nor do i give a damn if they are not rebuilding .Keep Laf because he doesn't come close to getting Guhle.

 

[Savant]

I don't care who they hired for a coach nor do i give a damn if they are not rebuilding .Keep Laf because he doesn't come close to getting Guhle.

That’s fine too. Nothing else makes sense for the Rangers though

 

[Mr grumpy]

Slaf for Laf

Lol

 

[Bouboumaster]

Hughes would be insane to trade Slafkovsky for Lafrenière

I want to get Lafrenière and give him a chance here, as much as the next guy, but certainly not at the price of Slafkovsky. He's too good of a complement to Suzuki and Caufield. We need him.

 

[HuGo Sham]

According to Tony Marinaro. He’s not the type of guy who put those things out in the open unless there’s smoke.

I like Tony but this is all fantasy. he got it from here:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25194921-6-2025-offseason-trade-landing-spots-alexis-lafreniere-amid-nhl-rumors

there's no world in which habs are trading Slafkovsky for him. At best, it's a lateral move.
So who's left? I guess NYR can pick from Dach, Laine, maybe a young Dman but habs 1st line and demidov are off the tabl.
No way Hughes moves any of those pieces for him.
and don't even suggest Guhle. No chance they move a top 2 young Dman for a winger

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

16th + Mailloux

but Im not convinced Hughes wants to add $7.5M for 7 years for a player whos put up 45, 57, 39 pts in his last 3 seasons..... this on top of the Hutson and Demidov contracts looming AND needing a 2C with a presumably big contract.

No way! No only is Mailloux having a good playoff The 16th pick going to be somebody like Bear, Carter or Aikcheson.

 

[amnesiac]

I dunno man. I don't see a Dach/Newhook comparison there either, and he did produce pretty well last season. You've gotta consider, he got minimal PP time and was Top 40 in the league in even strength production.

17G 45P isnt exactly great in today's NHL with the increased scoring. I wouldnt give $7.5Mx7 for 45P even with the cap increase.

Hes not horrible, but the guy is very streaky too... he had 2P in his last 9GP. Another streak in December he put up 1P in 12 GP. But again, the kicker is that he CANT stick with the top players and/or top line. Thats on him, its just a lack of talent. Coaches have tried him everywhere.

If he were a free agent thats one thing, but to give up big assets for him? nah. He hasnt shown enough consistency or progression after 5 years. Smells like another possible Drouin trade.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I don't know why a team that needs a 2nd. line center & a top four right shot defender would target an overpaid winger . This isn't the drone we're looking for , pass !

I think you are looking for droids. Drones look for you.

 

[Fatass]

17G 45P isnt exactly great in today's NHL with the increased scoring. I wouldnt give $7.5Mx7 for 45P even with the cap increase.

Hes not horrible, but the guy is very streaky too... he had 2P in his last 9GP. Another streak in December he has 1P in 12 GP. But again, the kicker is that he CANT stick with the top players and/or top line. Thats on him, its just a lack of talent. Coaches have tried him everywhere.

If he were a free agent thats one thing, but to give up big assets for him? nah. He hasnt proved enough after 5 years.

Aren’t these numbers very similar to Slafkosky? (Although Laf doesn’t get the PP opportunities that Slaf does) They both have similar contracts too. They’re both recent 1OA picks. Lafreniere is a couple years older so has less runway of development left.
But I can certainly see why some would connect the dots on a trade where each is swapped.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

17G 45P isnt exactly great in today's NHL with the increased scoring. I wouldnt give $7.5Mx7 for 45P even with the cap increase.

Hes not horrible, but the guy is very streaky too... he had 2P in his last 9GP. Another streak in December he has 1P in 12 GP. But again, the kicker is that he CANT stick with the top players and/or top line. Thats on him, its just a lack of talent. Coaches have tried him everywhere.

If he were a free agent thats one thing, but to give up big assets for him? nah. He hasnt proved enough after 5 years.

It's not great, but within two years $7.5M isn't gonna be the cap hit for "Great" either.

Realistically, when you've got a guy who was Top 40 even strength in 23-24, you've gotta put into perspective that that makes him the #2 even strength scorer on most teams. Did he regress this season? Yes. The entire team did.

If I were a team like Toronto that has to spend their cap wisely, hell no I wouldn't trade for him. When you're a team like Montreal who already has several players locked down on steal contracts, and isn't in any danger of losing their upcoming big UFAs, to me, you eat the overpay for 1-2 years and reap the benefits of him being underpaid for the last 5-6.

I just don't think Laf is a 45 point player on most other teams. Montreal included.

 

[amnesiac]

No way! No only is Mailloux having a good playoff The 16th pick going to be somebody like Bear, Carter or Aikcheson.

right now, Mailloux is proving to be nothing but another offensive AHL Dman that may not be able to cut it in the NHL. Time will tell, but theres a reason why he didnt play with the Habs this season, while guys like Struble and Xhekaj did.

Until he learns to be play responsibly in his own end, and hopefully use his body a lot more, to me hes a tradable asset. Guys like Reinbacher and Engstrom are ahead of him right now in the prospect Dman list.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Well, Tony deleted his tweet lmao.

 

[amnesiac]

Aren’t these numbers very similar to Slafkosky? (Although Laf doesn’t get the PP opportunities that Slaf does) They both have similar contracts too. They’re both recent 1OA picks. Lafreniere is a couple years older so has less runway of development left.
But I can certainly see why some would connect the dots on a trade where each is swapped.

Talk to me in 2 years..... Slaf just turned 21, has 2.5 years NHL experience, and has been playing on a rebuilding team.

Laf just finished his 5th NHL season, is turning 24 in October, and has played with the likes of Panarin, Fox, Zibanjad, Trochek, Kreider etc.

That said, sure, Slaf needs to start proving himself. I think adding Demidov will help.

 

[amnesiac]

It's not great, but within two years $7.5M isn't gonna be the cap hit for "Great" either.

Realistically, when you've got a guy who was Top 40 even strength in 23-24, you've gotta put into perspective that that makes him the #2 even strength scorer on most teams. Did he regress this season? Yes. The entire team did.

If I were a team like Toronto that has to spend their cap wisely, hell no I wouldn't trade for him. When you're a team like Montreal who already has several players locked down on steal contracts, and isn't in any danger of losing their upcoming big UFAs, to me, you eat the overpay for 1-2 years and reap the benefits of him being underpaid for the last 5-6.

I just don't think Laf is a 45 point player on most other teams. Montreal included.

could be, I dunno.... all I know is that hes played many many games with elite players, better than those on Montreal. What would you be willing to give up, though?

 

[Garbageyuk]

Slaf for Laf +

What does this accomplish?

 

[Garbageyuk]

16th + Mailloux

but Im not convinced Hughes wants to add $7.5M for 7 years for a player whos put up 45, 57, 39 pts in his last 3 seasons..... this on top of the Hutson and Demidov contracts looming AND needing a 2C with a presumably big contract.

No.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

could be, I dunno.... all I know is that hes played many many games with elite players, better than those on Montreal. What would you be willing to give up, though?

Not what NYR would ever consider taking lol. But that's the problem. He's a lackluster 1st Overall that they're going to want to get significant value out of because otherwise they wasted a 1st Overall.

Realistically, I'm not confident enough in Detroit's pick being out of the Top 20, so I wouldn't offer a 1st round pick for him.

Only way NYR dumps him for less is if he asks, like Kakko. They'd rather hope he recoups his value.