Speculation: MTL exploring acquiring Lafreniere from NYR

[montreal]

I changed this to speculation as it's not a rumor, it's just something that was made up on bleacher and Tony is just repeating it. There is no rumor of a trade between the 2 teams.

 

[De Montreal]

While this is true, his contract has 1 year left compared to Lafreniere's contract.

Laine doesn't do anything, it's 1 year of pain instead of 7 years of pain.

Lafreniere was one of the Rangers best forward in the playoff last year

He had a down season in a season everyone sucked on his team

 

[Jee]

Would be fun to have him on the team, but we have bigger holes in the lineup

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Laf for Slaf (which is short for Slovak Laf) was always destined to happen. Fulfill the prophecy

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Montreal has so many young assets that if the Rangers wanted to jumpstart a retool, I could see a mostly prospect and some picks deal here.

Slaf is not being traded for Lafreniere. He is two years younger and is producing similar to Lafreniere.

I think it would be something around a

forward prospect + 1st + Laine for cap.

The rangers wouldn't touch Laine and I doubt they are looking for prospects for any of their players.

I could see a Garland for Laf swap with Van adding a 2nd. Laf obviously has more value because he's younger but clearing 4 million in cap while still getting a guy with 60 point potential who actually gives a shit every shift.

Nucks brass one his former agent have always been bullish on Laf and he did have great chemistry with Chytil.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Not really.

1 year ensures it's one year of pain. Absurd cap inflation over the next three (maybe more) years means Lafreniere's contract is likely only a pain for a year or two.

Almost 7.5 for a 40 point player is pain for a while even with the cap inflation going up.

In 3 years when the cap is like 113 mill, or whatever and if Laf is still a 40 point player he's not a buyout candidate, but he's likely one you try and sell if you can.

That said, he has shown he can be a playoff player and him being a 50 point player isn't a stretch.

That's why I have some intrigue into him.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Almost 7.5 for a 40 point player is pain for a while even with the cap inflation going up.

In 3 years when the cap is like 113 mill, or whatever and if Laf is still a 40 point player he's not a buyout candidate, but he's likely one you try and sell if you can.

That said, he has shown he can be a playoff player and him being a 50 point player isn't a stretch.

That's why I have some intrigue into him.

For perspective, Laf's even strength production was one point less than Lucas Raymond and Matthew Knies this season. Two points behind Wyatt Johnston.

Teams would trip over themselves to trade for those players and pay them $7.45M.

They're obviously better than Laf, but Laf also hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed in New York.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

If he could get out of NYR and consistently be even a 60-70 point guy, the contract isn't that bad.

And if he continues to underperform, then his contract is an albatross. Why would the Habs risk it when they have young talent on the rise?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

For perspective, Laf's even strength production was one point less than Lucas Raymond and Matthew Knies this season. Two points behind Wyatt Johnston.

Teams would trip over themselves to trade for those players and pay them $7.45M.

They're obviously better than Laf, but Laf also hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed in New York.

Here’s an idea - quit you excuses and put Laf in a position to succeed. No one wants a failed experiment.

Right now, he’s a failure!

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

For perspective, Laf's even strength production was one point less than Lucas Raymond and Matthew Knies this season. Two points behind Wyatt Johnston.

Teams would trip over themselves to trade for those players and pay them $7.45M.

They're obviously better than Laf, but Laf also hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed in New York.

These are also NHL GMs where they will go for a dude that should have retired 3 seasons ago.

Also, i think I'm protraying acquiring Laf is just bad, which I'm not, or tha Laine is worth more, which I'm not trying to.

I'm not sure why the Rangers would dump him/trade him.

Also sounds like there's a feud, or at least on the Rangers' owner's part with Gorton, so that would seem a deal of magnitude is unlikely.

If there is, I hope it's for Cuylle, but I can settle for Laf depending on price to acquire him.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

These are also NHL GMs where they will go for a dude that should have retired 3 seasons ago.

Also, i think I'm protraying acquiring Laf is just bad, which I'm not, or tha Laine is worth more, which I'm not trying to.

I'm not sure why the Rangers would dump him/trade him.

Also sounds like there's a feud, or at least on the Rangers' owner's part with Gorton, so that would seem a deal of magnitude is unlikely.

If there is, I hope it's for Cuylle, but I can settle for Laf depending on price to acquire him.

Cuylle is not on the table. The Rangers need more Cuylles.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Here’s an idea - quit you excuses and put Laf in a position to succeed. No one wants a failed experiment.

Right now, he’s a failure!

Yes. A Detroit fan, for some reason, is making excuses for Laf.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

These are also NHL GMs where they will go for a dude that should have retired 3 seasons ago.

Also, i think I'm protraying acquiring Laf is just bad, which I'm not, or tha Laine is worth more, which I'm not trying to.

I'm not sure why the Rangers would dump him/trade him.

Also sounds like there's a feud, or at least on the Rangers' owner's part with Gorton, so that would seem a deal of magnitude is unlikely.

If there is, I hope it's for Cuylle, but I can settle for Laf depending on price to acquire him.

I think the only reasons they would is if he asks to be moved or if they feel they need the cap for other players they're higher on.

His value is way less than what they're going to want for him.

 

[Mr. Met]

Lafreniere to Habs will be in rumours annually

Not sure why exactly, though

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Yes. A Detroit fan, for some reason, is making excuses for Laf.

Sounds like Detroit would trip over themselves to get Laf! Go ahead and post a proposal on behalf of Detroit.

 

[Fatass]

The Habs can certainly call on Laf. But they likely don’t because they already suspect the cost.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Why though

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Sounds like Detroit would trip over themselves to get Laf! Go ahead and post a proposal on behalf of Detroit.

We certainly wouldn't pay what NYR wanted, but I also wouldn't be dumb enough to say a guy who can't get PP opportunities on one of the worst managed teams in the league is a lost cause lmao.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I have a hard time determining if Laf sucks just because NYR is such a disaster.

Especially because Kakko got out and immediately started producing more.

Laf is 2 x years into his 7.5M contract

We certainly wouldn't pay what NYR wanted, but I also wouldn't be dumb enough to say a guy who can't get PP opportunities on one of the worst managed teams in the league is a lost cause lmao.

7.5M contract - not worth the risk. Might be worth the risk for Detroit as they are desperate!

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Laf is 2 x years into his 7.5M contract

7.5M contract - not worth the risk. Might be worth the risk for Detroit as they are desperate!

Laf's 7.5 kicks in this year. Conveniently as the cap starts to rise. It's not the anchor most think it is. Maybe 1.5 mil overpaid assuming he doesn't bounce back.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Laf is 2 x years into his 7.5M contract

7.5M contract - not worth the risk. Might be worth the risk for Detroit as they are desperate!

If you were half as concerned about checking facts as you were about talking shit, you wouldn't have made a completely false statement in the first sentence.

Get back to the kids' table, champ.

 

[Draft]

For perspective, Laf's even strength production was one point less than Lucas Raymond and Matthew Knies this season. Two points behind Wyatt Johnston.

Teams would trip over themselves to trade for those players and pay them $7.45M.

They're obviously better than Laf, but Laf also hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed in New York.

Outside of not getting the PP time of an elite offensive player - my understanding being that he hasn’t performed well on the PP - what part of Lafrenière’s deployment indicates he hasn’t been put in a position to succeed the last couple seasons? Sincere question.

 

[Riggins]

There won't be any Montreal and NYR trades as long as Gorton is still with the Habs. He's not making any deals with the franchise that punted him for Drury.

 

[Fatass]

For perspective, Laf's even strength production was one point less than Lucas Raymond and Matthew Knies this season. Two points behind Wyatt Johnston.

Teams would trip over themselves to trade for those players and pay them $7.45M.

They're obviously better than Laf, but Laf also hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed in New York.

Exactly! If Lafreniere was on the market there would be a bidding war between clubs believing he could produce a lot more with more opportunity, especially on the PP.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

There won't be any Montreal and NYR trades as long as Gorton is still with the Habs. He's not making any deals with the franchise that punted him for Drury.

This is the correct answer. Whether he's correct or not, Gordon felt slighted. All the talking heads can post their click bait, but it's never happening.