Value of: MTL-COL -> Mittelstadt

[The Don Hughes]

I'd be curious of the value of Mittelstadt if he price himself out of Colorado in his RFA demands. I know Colorado just gave Byram to acquire Mittelstadt but with the cap getting tight, especially if Landy comes back, and with the amount of players still needed, I'd be curious to see the price point to acquire him.
Hughes has made some trades with Colorado in the past and he's made some move that nobody saw coming. I wonder if this could be one.

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[Viqsi]

Given how desperate Colorado's been for years to get that #2C that fits, I suspect Mittlestadt is going to be an extremely high priority.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Can’t see rado doing a Casey trade considering they just traded Byram for him

 

[LOFIN]

 

[Shane Diesel]

LOL

 

[AvStock]

Well what is MTL trying to offer?

 

[BobRossColton]

Well what is MTL trying to offer?

I second this, just for curiosity sake.

 

[Bond]

I second this, just for curiosity sake.

Something much worse than Byram lol

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Well what is MTL trying to offer?

Realistically I don't think there's a deal to be made. Young D are Montreal's surplus, but the only ones that are in the same internal value range as Byram aren't going to be available for trade, and I doubt a deal starting with Mailloux would get it done.

Deal just wouldn't make sense right now.

 

[The Don Hughes]

Well what is MTL trying to offer?

I felt more confortable asking what would Colorado want instead of proposing something that wouldn't match the needs and look like a clown. I understand that they've been looking for a decent 2C ever since Kadri left, but the reality is that the cap is pretty tight with lots of holes and a trade would be better than just an offersheet.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Once you take out the recent high picks and trendy prospects, Montreal’s asset pool isn’t anything special. Winnipeg’s 1st in 26OA. Odds are that the extra 2025 pick will be similarly placed. Other teams have their own recent late 1sts and 2nds.

Not to say that the Habs can’t make a splash that way, but you won’t find a warm reception on here ahead of time.

 

[LOFIN]

I felt more confortable asking what would Colorado want instead of proposing something that wouldn't match the needs and look like a clown. I understand that they've been looking for a decent 2C ever since Kadri left, but the reality is that the cap is pretty tight with lots of holes and a trade would be better than just an offersheet.

I guess Colorado could swap Mittelstadt with Nick Suzuki. At least there is cost certainity there.

 

[TageGod]

I am highly intrigued by his contract. I was not willing to do more than 6-6.5 x 4. If he ends up at like 7+ x 5+ I will be very happy he was not resigned in Buffalo.

 

[AslanRH]

There was not a bigger hole than 2C on the Avs in recent years. Trading the newly acquired one just makes no sense

 

[Mersss]

Offersheet 1-2 at 6.871
Briings Casey to UFA status and COL likely not able to match. Cost a 1st and a 3rd

 

[HabsAddict]

There is no fit because the Habs need MORE offense and what we have is a surplus of young 5-6th defenseman. Which Colorado doesn't need.

There are a few teams like Philly who has forward depth and need more defenseman. Of course they will want players like Mailioux and Hutson, or Guhle, which won't happen.

It's not easy to fill a hole with a high quality player without creating another hole.

Offersheet 1-2 at 6.871
Briings Casey to UFA status and COL likely not able to match. Cost a 1st and a 3rd

The problem with that is that the Habs may lose a top 5 draft piece from our first..

We're not out of the woods and into middle draft position where we won't lose a high quality draft pick.

 

[MisterT]

Offersheet 1-2 at 6.871
Briings Casey to UFA status and COL likely not able to match. Cost a 1st and a 3rd

Because the Habs have shown a proficiency understanding offersheets.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Because the Habs have shown a proficiency understanding offersheets.

That guy is in LA now.




Habs pass. I think Dach can be a number 2 centre capable of 50+ points. Mittlestadt kinda sucks on draws, but Dach is worse, but he brings more of an edge than Mittlestadt. Habs wouldn't pay what he's worth, so Colorado passes, too.

 

[dirtydanglez]

unless the habs offer a 2c and a goalie i dont see what would motivate colorado to do this.

habs would have a better shot at nuke or girard.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I felt more confortable asking what would Colorado want instead of proposing something that wouldn't match the needs and look like a clown.

you still managed it somehow

 

[Avsfan1921]

Realistically I don't think there's a deal to be made. Young D are Montreal's surplus, but the only ones that are in the same internal value range as Byram aren't going to be available for trade, and I doubt a deal starting with Mailloux would get it done.

Deal just wouldn't make sense right now.

Correct, a Mailloux level prospect most certainly would not get it done.

 

[Chainshot]

There was not a bigger hole than 2C on the Avs in recent years. Trading the newly acquired one just makes no sense

But you could have Barron back though! Think of the possibilities!

Seriously though, seems really unlikely that having found a good one, the Avs are going to spin him off for something other than, well, him.

 

[Djp]

Well what is MTL trying to offer?

I think they are called spare parts

 

[Cypher]

Lock this thread.

 

[malcb33]

Once you take out the recent high picks and trendy prospects, Montreal’s asset pool isn’t anything special. Winnipeg’s 1st in 26OA. Odds are that the extra 2025 pick will be similarly placed. Other teams have their own recent late 1sts and 2nds.

So once you take out everything good that they've accumulated over the last few years of tanking, their prospect pool isn't that good?

They were hopelessly trying to compete for years, went to the 2021 Cup final, and tanked for 3 years. Interestingly enough, that nothing special prospect pool they've accumulated somehow gets ranked top-10 by most writers. The Canadiens are also one of the youngest teams in the league (meaning a fair number of graduated prospects).