MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects

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Juulsen had similar production and quality of defensive play at the same age as Libor Hajek (who I don’t consider to be a top-100 prospect), but the latter had a more impressive WJC showing. I think Juulsen is a good prospect, but he simply hasn’t shown offensive upside to the level he should at this stage to quality as a top-fifty prospect, and injuries only serve to dampen his case, rather than allow him a stay of evaluation for when he’s healthy. Time goes on regardless of an individual’s conditioning.

 

[Mrb1p]

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[Mrb1p]

Juulsen had similar production and quality of defensive play at the same age as Libor Hajek (who I don’t consider to be a top-100 prospect), but the latter had a more impressive WJC showing. I think Juulsen is a good prospect, but he simply hasn’t shown offensive upside to the level he should at this stage to quality as a top-fifty prospect, and injuries only serve to dampen his case, rather than allow him a stay of evaluation for when he’s healthy. Time goes on regardless of an individual’s conditioning.

Juulsens PPG from D to D2 .57 vs .47 isnt that similar. Juulsen also shows much more willingness in his play and ability to produce than Libor. Juulsen also showed he could be the best defenseman on an AHL squad, something Hajek has yet to show.

I dont know if Hajek would make my top 100, hes a pretty good prospect too.

 

[CodeE]

I remember when we drafted Wahlstrom, all I could think was "darn! We could have had Alexander Alexeyev or Nils Lundkvist! What is Lou thinking taking Wahlstrom over these two!?"

 

[Mrb1p]

I remember when we drafted Wahlstrom, all I could think was "darn! We could have had Alexander Alexeyev or Nils Lundkvist! What is Lou thinking taking Wahlstrom over these two!?"

Nice of you to agree with me.

 

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Juulsens PPG from D to D2 .57 vs .47 isnt that similar. Juulsen also shows much more willingness in his play and ability to produce than Libor. Juulsen also showed he could be the best defenseman on an AHL squad, something Hajek has yet to show.

I dont know if Hajek would make my top 100, hes a pretty good prospect too.

Hajek’s draft year was also his first in North America while on a considerably worse team. I don’t really know what you mean by willigness to score (Hajek is more of a transition defenseman anyway), but that they both had similar offensive output in their D+2 season, and if Hajek’s resume doesn’t put him close to the top-fifty, I don’t see how Juulsen’s does.

 

[Mrb1p]

I have commented on Juulsen over and over, theres 49 other prospects on that list, Im pretty much done with those Juulsen discussion. Hajek is a good prospect, so its not exactly wrong to compare them anyway.

 

[MardyBum]

Couple of strange rankings.

Lists Mete who played 49 games, but not Roslovic who played 41.

Also, if you're going to list Juulsen, Myers and Hronek, where is the AHL's best Dman?

Overall it's a good list though, it's a pain in the ass to try to properly rank 50 prospects so I respect the time you took doing it.

 

[Mrb1p]

Couple of strange rankings.

Lists Mete who played 49 games, but not Roslovic who played 41.

Also, if you're going to list Juulsen, Myers and Hronek, where is the AHL's best Dman?

Overall it's a good list though, it's a pain in the ass to try to properly rank 50 prospects so I respect the time you took doing it.

Niku would be near the 50th point too.

Thanks for the kind words.

On the mete/roslovic comment, Im sure Roslovics spot on the team is 100% secured, meanwhile a lot of habs fans think AHL would be beneficiary to Mete and a lot of us seem to think his spot isnt guaranteed.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Niku would be near the 50th point too.

Thanks for the kind words.

On the mete/roslovic comment, Im sure Roslovics spot on the team is 100% secured, meanwhile a lot of habs fans think AHL would be beneficiary to Mete and a lot of us seem to think his spot isnt guaranteed.

I think Mete's spot is all but guaranteed, especially with Weber injured until late December

 

[MardyBum]

Niku would be near the 50th point too.

Thanks for the kind words.

On the mete/roslovic comment, Im sure Roslovics spot on the team is 100% secured, meanwhile a lot of habs fans think AHL would be beneficiary to Mete and a lot of us seem to think his spot isnt guaranteed.

Nearly 100%, I wouldn't put it past a potato vet signing late in august ala Hendricks last year to screw it up though lol.

Didn't know that about Mete, figured he was a lock.

 

[XXIV97]

Very bad.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

Galchenyuk. Sergachev. Gallagher. Price. Pacio. Subban. McDonagh.

He isn't the best scout in hockey but he's pretty good at his job IMO. It's not like he is drafting in the top 5 or 10 every year. I wouldn't hate it if they replaced him just for a new face and new ideas but he's fine.

I also believe your opinion discounts the Habs terrible developement. They've had a handful of good to great drafts in a lot of peoples eyes with players that failed to develop. I put that on the AHL and developement team instead of him.

Galchenyuk top 3 pick, Easy Pick. I had him no.1 in his draft year.
Sergachev, Easy pick. Top 11 was loaded.
Gallagher, Great pick. But he's not a first line player. Habs are awful, so hes forced to play big minutes. Based on past work, seems like a fluke pick.
Price, I'll give props.
I already mentioned 2007.

So in 11 years, all we have to show is Brendan Gallagher as a bonafide top 6 forward that required actual scouting.

Yes development is awful, but timmins isn't helping his case when he takes garbage players like David Fischer, Louis Leblanc, Jared Tinordi, Michael Mccarron, etc, etc. Outside ONE amazing year (Fluke), it's quite obvious the gallagher pick was an outlier...and imagine if Price went 4th overall, they would have taken Pouilot most likely at 5.

I have no faith in timmins and his current crop of prospects leaves a lot to be desired...throw in the awful development/management. Yah, we suck.

 

[Son of Petter]

You’re right. You suck at these.

 

[Fables]

Thank you for taking the time to make this list. You've done an admirable job on a tough subject in both creating the list and responding to criticisms.

I agree. This is a good effort and interesting read and many of the critics seem to take it too personally or critically if they disagree on on part of the rankings. Like OP said this is his list.

If it's made by a habs fan and a couple of habs prospecs are higher than in some others list so what. People who are fans of a team tend to follow the prospects of his team more closely and maybe rank them a bit too high. But why focus too much on that. There are still >45 other prospects ranked here.

Personally I found interesting how high you had Necas in your list. I only saw him in a couple international games and I have to agree that he was really impressive in those games and seemed to impact the game all the time. But I could say the same about Mittelstadt and what Heiskanen and Pettersson did in their leagues was likely even more impressive.

But anyway Necas is a very interesting prospect. Could be that he struggles a lot in his transition to NHL or he could be a dark horse calder candidate. We'll see soon.

 

[Andrei79]

Good read, including your subsequent arguments. I do think a guy like Juulsen is too high, but your list is consequent with everything you've said over the past 2 years. These are the players you've talked about and liked and I like that it's not the standard bullshit consensus rankings that always suck.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think Mete's spot is all but guaranteed, especially with Weber injured until late December

Weber is a RD, shouldnt matter much. Still think Rielly/Alzner are the only LD locks, Alzner because hes bad and Rielly because its the best we got aside from Mete. Moravczik might take Metes spot, who knows.

 

[Mrb1p]

Galchenyuk top 3 pick, Easy Pick. I had him no.1 in his draft year.
Sergachev, Easy pick. Top 11 was loaded.
Gallagher, Great pick. But he's not a first line player. Habs are awful, so hes forced to play big minutes. Based on past work, seems like a fluke pick.
Price, I'll give props.
I already mentioned 2007.

So in 11 years, all we have to show is Brendan Gallagher as a bonafide top 6 forward that required actual scouting.

Yes development is awful, but timmins isn't helping his case when he takes garbage players like David Fischer, Louis Leblanc, Jared Tinordi, Michael Mccarron, etc, etc. Outside ONE amazing year (Fluke), it's quite obvious the gallagher pick was an outlier...and imagine if Price went 4th overall, they would have taken Pouilot most likely at 5.

I have no faith in timmins and his current crop of prospects leaves a lot to be desired...throw in the awful development/management. Yah, we suck.

If you just dismiss every arguments made ever, youll always be right

 

[Mrb1p]

Good read, including your subsequent arguments. I do think a guy like Juulsen is too high, but your list is consequent with everything you've said over the past 2 years. These are the players you've talked about and liked and I like that it's not the standard bull**** consensus rankings that always suck.

Imagine if I went to 100 and ranked Fonstad in there

 

[Mrb1p]

You’re right. You suck at these.

Im always right

 

[Ezekial]

Im always right

You seem to always think so, that's for sure.

 

[Mrb1p]

I agree. This is a good effort and interesting read and many of the critics seem to take it too personally or critically if they disagree on on part of the rankings. Like OP said this is his list.

If it's made by a habs fan and a couple of habs prospecs are higher than in some others list so what. People who are fans of a team tend to follow the prospects of his team more closely and maybe rank them a bit too high. But why focus too much on that. There are still >45 other prospects ranked here.

Personally I found interesting how high you had Necas in your list. I only saw him in a couple international games and I have to agree that he was really impressive in those games and seemed to impact the game all the time. But I could say the same about Mittelstadt and what Heiskanen and Pettersson did in their leagues was likely even more impressive.

But anyway Necas is a very interesting prospect. Could be that he struggles a lot in his transition to NHL or he could be a dark horse calder candidate. We'll see soon.

I really think Necas/Mittlestatd/Heiskanen are all really close to each other and they all have similar upside. They have no question marks aside from how good will they be. Pettersson is there on the statistical strength of his SHL season, I am not that much of a fan, I think he still has a lot to address when it comes to him being a dominating presence in the NHL, but I cant deny the talent either, so hes 6th.

 

[Andrei79]

Imagine if I went to 100 and ranked Fonstad in there

"I wouldn't even have Fonstad in my top 600 prospects".

 

[Mrb1p]

You seem to always think so, that's for sure.

Welp damn, thats the fun in opinions.

 

[Ezekial]

Welp damn, thats the fun in opinions.

I'm just giving you a hard time, most people think they're right.