Value of: Mr. John Klingberg to TB?

[FedorTyutin]

Hello,

So it doesn't appear that it's gonna be working anymore for Klingberg in Dallas. Miro is slowly but surely becoming the top-D of this franchise, Klingberg is pending UFA and although it is early in the season, I don't think Dallas is gonna be in a playoff spot.

Then I was wondering, with a couple of buddies, if Klingberg could be traded between now and the TDL, to a team that wants to be competitive but rushes with the PP. Tampa is in this situation and I wondered if they could be interested in getting him. Their RD is clearly inferior to their LD, he could play on a top pair with Hedman, get a 2nd or even 1st pp, get his game back on tracks with a top-tier team that takes time to get going... + Tampa is traditionnally the team that trades its picks in order to get more competitive, with pending UFAs, so possibly a move like this in order to get another shot at the cup for three-peating...

What do we think of this?

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[2020 Cup Champions]

I don't hate the idea, but the cap is going to take some real wizardry this year.

 

[Kahvi]

I don't hate the idea, but the cap is going to take some real wizardry this year.

Yes, this could work. Too bad Tampa doesn't have experience how to deal with tight cap situation

 

[kij]

TBL predicted to have nearly $9 million in cap space at the deadline, plus Dallas could retain 50% if necessary. Tampa has the pieces, the desire to win, and a need. Hell, they could do all their deadline shopping at once if Dallas commits to selling and take Pavelski as well. He'd fill the gritty skilled forward niche that Tampa loves. Both at 50% comes in at ~$5.6. Would be fun to see.

 

[Rory]

Hello,

So it doesn't appear that it's gonna be working anymore for Klingberg in Dallas. Miro is slowly but surely becoming the top-D of this franchise, Klingberg is pending UFA and although it is early in the season, I don't think Dallas is gonna be in a playoff spot.

Then I was wondering, with a couple of buddies, if Klingberg could be traded between now and the TDL, to a team that wants to be competitive but rushes with the PP. Tampa is in this situation and I wondered if they could be interested in getting him. Their RD is clearly inferior to their LD, he could play on a top pair with Hedman, get a 2nd or even 1st pp, get his game back on tracks with a top-tier team that takes time to get going... + Tampa is traditionnally the team that trades its picks in order to get more competitive, with pending UFAs, so possibly a move like this in order to get another shot at the cup for three-peating...

What do we think of this?

What is the offer? Let’s start there.

 

[HoseEmDown]

TBL predicted to have nearly $9 million in cap space at the deadline, plus Dallas could retain 50% if necessary. Tampa has the pieces, the desire to win, and a need. Hell, they could do all their deadline shopping at once if Dallas commits to selling and take Pavelski as well. He'd fill the gritty skilled forward niche that Tampa loves. Both at 50% comes in at ~$5.6. Would be fun to see.

That capspace is only if they keep Kucherov on LTIR till then. Once he comes off LTIR they have 0 capspace. So they can't acquire both unless cap goes back and they don't have any cap they would want to dump for that. For Klingberg Dallas would have to retain 40-50% and then another team would have to retain 40-50%, depending on how much Dallas retains, and also take back Rutta for us to fit him in. So Rutta + 1st + Fortier is the most I'd consider.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hello,

So it doesn't appear that it's gonna be working anymore for Klingberg in Dallas. Miro is slowly but surely becoming the top-D of this franchise, Klingberg is pending UFA and although it is early in the season, I don't think Dallas is gonna be in a playoff spot.

Then I was wondering, with a couple of buddies, if Klingberg could be traded between now and the TDL, to a team that wants to be competitive but rushes with the PP. Tampa is in this situation and I wondered if they could be interested in getting him. Their RD is clearly inferior to their LD, he could play on a top pair with Hedman, get a 2nd or even 1st pp, get his game back on tracks with a top-tier team that takes time to get going... + Tampa is traditionnally the team that trades its picks in order to get more competitive, with pending UFAs, so possibly a move like this in order to get another shot at the cup for three-peating...

What do we think of this?

HE had a good season last year and we are only 10 games into this season

 

[LTIR Trickery]

TBL predicted to have nearly $9 million in cap space at the deadline, plus Dallas could retain 50% if necessary. Tampa has the pieces, the desire to win, and a need. Hell, they could do all their deadline shopping at once if Dallas commits to selling and take Pavelski as well. He'd fill the gritty skilled forward niche that Tampa loves. Both at 50% comes in at ~$5.6. Would be fun to see.

Theres no way Tampa does a deal without getting *some* money going outbound, but haven't looked at Dallas situation.

 

[Rory]

That capspace is only if they keep Kucherov on LTIR till then. Once he comes off LTIR they have 0 capspace. So they can't acquire both unless cap goes back and they don't have any cap they would want to dump for that. For Klingberg Dallas would have to retain 40-50% and then another team would have to retain 40-50%, depending on how much Dallas retains, and also take back Rutta for us to fit him in. So Rutta + 1st + Fortier is the most I'd consider.

Pass. Dallas has to retain to help with salary and take Rutta as a dump for a late 1st and a prospect?

 

[Zapp]

That capspace is only if they keep Kucherov on LTIR till then. Once he comes off LTIR they have 0 capspace. So they can't acquire both unless cap goes back and they don't have any cap they would want to dump for that. For Klingberg Dallas would have to retain 40-50% and then another team would have to retain 40-50%, depending on how much Dallas retains, and also take back Rutta for us to fit him in. So Rutta + 1st + Fortier is the most I'd consider.

Lmao

yeah sure call em up, they’ll take that

 

[HoseEmDown]

Pass. Dallas has to retain to help with salary and take Rutta as a dump for a late 1st and a prospect?

What more do you think you'll get for a pending UFA? Plus Rutta could be flipped right away for a mid round pick.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Lmao

yeah sure call em up, they’ll take that

Ok, what do you expect to get for a pending UFA?

 

[Dr Danglefest]

What more do you think you'll get for a pending UFA? Plus Rutta could be flipped right away for a mid round pick.

then you flip him for the mid round pick before this trade instead of putting it on the team offering the sought after player

trash offer

 

[HoseEmDown]

then you flip him for the mid round pick before this trade instead of putting it on the team offering the sought after player

trash offer

A 1st + former 2nd round pick prospect + 2 time Cup winning defenseman is a trash offer? Good to know.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

A 1st + former 2nd round pick prospect + 2 time Cup winning defenseman is a trash offer? Good to know.

because a player was on a wagon of a team as a number 5-7 Dman does not give him value

 

[crowi]

If I'm Dallas GM and I'm trading Klingberg, then it's not to a team like Tampa. They just don't have the pieces.

 

[StreetHawk]

Dallas can trade Klingberg anywhere as he has no trade protection.
What does Dallas have coming up on their right side D?

 

[Stubu]

HE had a good season last year and we are only 10 games into this season

I don't think this is about Klingberg as a defenseman or how Stars are playing right now, but about their problematic salary structure in the long term view.

Moving Klingberg for assets does make sense. (Not to GM Nill... but anyway.)

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

That capspace is only if they keep Kucherov on LTIR till then. Once he comes off LTIR they have 0 capspace. So they can't acquire both unless cap goes back and they don't have any cap they would want to dump for that. For Klingberg Dallas would have to retain 40-50% and then another team would have to retain 40-50%, depending on how much Dallas retains, and also take back Rutta for us to fit him in. So Rutta + 1st + Fortier is the most I'd consider.

Hard pass.

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

A 1st + former 2nd round pick prospect + 2 time Cup winning defenseman is a trash offer? Good to know.

Nice try, but I'm sure he's not very significant to the 2 cup wins.

We give up Klingberg, then the return has to be a younger/equal age D with similar skills or a prospect that will be a future top pair D. Rutta is not that.

 

[The Macho King]

Klingberg is a hat on a hat. He's not going to be on the top PP, and I don't think he fits with Hedman on the top pairing.

Just doesn't seem like a fit here.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

But does he speak Klingon ?

 

[Dr Pepper]

A 1st + former 2nd round pick prospect + 2 time Cup winning defenseman is a trash offer? Good to know.

Oh stop.

He was a passenger and you know it, quit trying to pass him off as some key cog to Tampa's recent success.

Klingberg scored 15 more points in Dallas's one run to the finals, than Rutta's combined playoff production in three years with Tampa. He's just..... not a viable option for Dallas in any Klingberg trade.

 

[oconnor9sean]

Klingberg will age gracefully, so I'd much rather just re-sign him than spend the next 5 years looking for someone who can do who he can do.

 

[Point21]

id do Klingberg at 50% retained for Foote, ABB, and a 1st, with Rutta being added to make cap work. And then give Detroit a 3rd to retain 1m so Klingberg is only 1.125m which gets Tampa at about 300k in cap space with 13F and 7D