Move Players with term, recoup picks

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Being bad can be just as fun as being good.

 

[TCB]

Being bad can be just as fun as being good.

Unfortunately if I had to pick a year for this team to be bad, it would of been this one, but they weren't bad, and they get eliminated in the first round and have no 1st or 2nd round picks in a Deep draft and next years draft no picks in the first 3 rounds.

 

[ON3M4N]

Unfortunately if I had to pick a year for this team to be bad, it would of been this one, but they weren't bad, and they get eliminated in the first round and have no 1st or 2nd round picks in a Deep draft and next years draft no picks in the first 3 rounds.

Their 2024 1st is Top 10 protected, so if they're bad enough we may have a 1st round pick next year lol

 

[Trizz617]

Ownership needs to sell the team. It’s the Jacobs Curse.

New energy, new lenses certainly wouldn't hurt.

 

[JOKER 192]

Need to start all over here. From top to bottom.

Management

Coaches

Players

Harvest picks, start the rebuild , no one is sacred

 

[BB88]

You can’t give it another go anymore.

The Bergeron- Krejci- Marchand core is too old and slow.
They have to start building a core that follows them.

Gain assets, get rid of as much cap as possible, go get a top10 pick for next year and just go from there.


Another push will mean Detroit type rebuild, which will take forever.
They already stand today in one of the worst spots in the league

 

[Patdud]

It really is time to wash your hands on most players over 30 and go forward with a new "core" of Pasta, DeBrusk, Bertuzzi, McAvoy, Carlo and Swayman.

Can recoup plenty of picks selling some combination of Hall/Coyle/Ullmark/Gryz.

Maybe not a 1st (outside of Ullmark, but only do that if you can find a good vet in a trade and hand the reigns to swayman) but you can easily pull some 2nds and 3rds for that group, maybe a mid prospect or roster player to fill out the bottom six.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Being bad can be just as fun as being good.

As a ducks fan I strongly disagree

It really is time to wash your hands on most players over 30 and go forward with a new "core" of Pasta, DeBrusk, Bertuzzi, McAvoy, Carlo and Swayman.

Can recoup plenty of picks selling some combination of Hall/Coyle/Ullmark/Gryz.

Maybe not a 1st (outside of Ullmark, but only do that if you can find a good vet in a trade and hand the reigns to swayman) but you can easily pull some 2nds and 3rds for that group, maybe a mid prospect or roster player to fill out the bottom six.

Ullmark will get a 1st + 2nd
Gryz could prob get a 2nd

I imagine debrusk stays now…. But I’d love for the ducks to poach him

 

[BB88]

This team needs Orlov and Bertuzzi to stay. Hathaway too. They add a different dynamic that makes you believe in this core. The core of choke artists from the past 13 years needs to go though. Other than Marchand.

Cap reasons they need to trade Ullmark. Has zero to do with his ability but in order to get a center in here or retain talent he needs to go. Plus his value will probably never be higher. See if they can move Griz Coyle and some of the 3rd and 4th liners and rebuild there. Maybe trade Hall too.

What core?

Where Zacha and Coyle are the top6 C’s?

Useless to spend cap if that’s it

 

[Midship]

Move McAvoy and his absolute albatross of a contract at all costs.

 

[bbfan419]

I would trade Ullmark and Marchand they would bring back something good in the way of picks/prospects. One goalie I would look to trade for is actually being used as the #3 guy in Carolina, Pyotr Kochetkov, maybe they do a hockey deal for him for a D or Forward.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What core?

Where Zacha and Coyle are the top6 C’s?

Useless to spend cap if that’s it

Center is going to def be tough to find a replacement…. Not many ever go through free agency… and trading for 1 requires heavy assets.

I guess they could potentially buy low on guys like newhook/turcotte type and hope for the best.

Maybe someone like vilardi becomes available…. As the kings may have issues bringing him back

Wonder if you could move swayman for vilardi + 1 of their extra dmen

 

[ON3M4N]

Its for Gold & Sweeney to figure out, but I don't see how you can keep Bertuzzi without moving someone like Hall. I also think it'll be tough to carry about Ullmark and Swayman unless Swayman takes a very team friendly 1-2yr deal. With that said does it come down to....

Bertuzzi or Hall
Swayman or Ullmark

Bertuzzi & Swayman are younger than Hall & Ullmark. They likely come in at a lower combined cap hit.

 

[Patdud]

Center is going to def be tough to find a replacement…. Not many ever go through free agency… and trading for 1 requires heavy assets.

I guess they could potentially buy low on guys like newhook/turcotte type and hope for the best.

Maybe someone like vilardi becomes available…. As the kings may have issues bringing him back

Wonder if you could move swayman for vilardi + 1 of their extra dmen

As far as 1Cs available through trade, only one that would actually be available is likely Scheifele, but the question is whether they want the baggage, that WPG room is about to get combusted big time.

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[bbfan419]

Its for Gold & Sweeney to figure out, but I don't see how you can keep Bertuzzi without moving someone like Hall. I also think it'll be tough to carry about Ullmark and Swayman unless Swayman takes a very team friendly 1-2yr deal. With that said does it come down to....

Bertuzzi or Hall
Swayman or Ullmark

Bertuzzi & Swayman are younger than Hall & Ullmark. They likely come in at a lower combined cap hit.

I can see letting go Nosek, Foligno and Clifton in FA, they will try to move Reilly for whatever they can get for him, then you trade Ullmark, Forbort, Grizz, Coyle and Marchand, that opens up plenty of space to sign Bertuzzi, Orlov and Hathaway and maybe some other UFA, while getting picks and prospects back as well.

 

[ON3M4N]

I can see letting go Nosek, Foligno and Clifton in FA, they will try to move Reilly for whatever they can get for him, then you trade Ullmark, Forbort, Grizz, Coyle and Marchand, that opens up plenty of space to sign Bertuzzi, Orlov and Hathaway and maybe some other UFA, while getting picks and prospects back as well.

They're not trading Marchand. I also don't see them trading Coyle considering the lack of NHL ready centers we have. Not to mention Coyle improved drastically in the dot this year and plays on your PK.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

As far as 1Cs available through trade, only one that would actually be available is likely Scheifele, but the question is whether they want the baggage, that WPG room is about to get combusted big time.

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Might be able to pry Dubois out of Winnipeg

Beyond that, the only other choice is gut the team and back up the Brinks truck to Matthews's house

 

[DiggityDog]

I don’t understand the logic in bringing Hathaway back. He was supposed to be the guy that would help this soft core combat teams like Florida and what Florida tried to do. Completely invisible.

Thanks but no thanks.

 

[bbfan419]

They're not trading Marchand. I also don't see them trading Coyle considering the lack of NHL ready centers we have. Not to mention Coyle improved drastically in the dot this year and plays on your PK.

Depends what the returns would be, if you can get a good young center prospect it may be worth it.

 

[BruinDust]

I don’t understand the logic in bringing Hathaway back. He was supposed to be the guy that would help this soft core combat teams like Florida and what Florida tried to do. Completely invisible.

Thanks but no thanks.

Hathaway didn't make the Florida defenders flinch and we saw little of the hard (and sometimes dirty) hitting ability that he was suppose to bring to the table. Didn't see it in the regular season, didn't see it in the playoffs.

 

[Yeti34]

I would agree on signing Bert.

Keepers: Mac, Carlo, Pasta, Debrusk, Marchand

Everyone else should be available for the right return.

To sign Bertuzzi you will need to move on from a few of the guys. I would trade Lindholm if he wasn’t playing with an injury. Gryz the team doesn’t have confidence in him in the playoffs. Clifton he was just awful.
Forbort as much as I like him on the PK it’s too much money for what he brings. Nosek again I like the player he’s a cap causality. Pick either Swayman or Ullmark and trade the other. Preferably keep Swayman. I would trade Coyle as well and go with a cheaper option.

Please do not sign Foligno again.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

 

[Yeti34]

Hathaway didn't make the Florida defenders flinch and we saw little of the hard (and sometimes dirty) hitting ability that he was suppose to bring to the table. Didn't see it in the regular season, didn't see it in the playoffs.

I liked him in the regular season. He seemed to have turned into a punching bag in the playoffs. I would have liked to see Greer get in a game over him.

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

Ullmark should be #1 to go.
Marchand should be #2, love the guy but it’s time to move on from the old guard. Not everyone needs to retire a Bruin and they need picks and prospects/young players.
2011 is ancient history, it’s time to move on and get a jump on hopefully the next era

 

[BB88]

Center is going to def be tough to find a replacement…. Not many ever go through free agency… and trading for 1 requires heavy assets.

I guess they could potentially buy low on guys like newhook/turcotte type and hope for the best.

Maybe someone like vilardi becomes available…. As the kings may have issues bringing him back

Wonder if you could move swayman for vilardi + 1 of their extra dmen

The 2024 is top10 protected.
That’s their best way to land one.

This team needs major work, no desire to build around what if’s.