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This thread has taken an interesting direction.
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
This thread has taken an interesting direction.
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
This whole discussion of which of Kroos and Thiago are chokers/big game players just makes me happy I'm not a Bayern fan.
This thread has taken an interesting direction.
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
Both good players. Doesn't matter what I think about either, it's just a discussion.This whole discussion of which of Kroos and Thiago are chokers/big game players just makes me happy I'm not a Bayern fan.
Lol they'd call him a passenger. Only if you do step-overs and fall over at every tackle and score bundles of goals against bottom-feeding teams - that's when you're a real finisher and driver.This thread has taken an interesting direction.
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
This thread has taken an interesting direction.
Would you guys say Claude Makélélé was overrated and a passenger in his day?
Makalele was underrated for the large part of his career. Only when he moved to RM that people realized he was really good. As Corto said, similar to Kante.
His first 2 years in England evoked shades of Cristiano Ronaldo-esque excitement at times, in his third year he was absolutely dominating and providing even when Mourinho went full-Mourinho and Chelsea played terrible and boring football for 3 or 4 months coasting to the title. After that year I don't think it was unfair to call Hazard the #3 in the world. What more did he need to do?I'm on board with this. He had a terrific year, and then a horrible one, and this year he's cooled off significantly. I know he's nearly irreplaceable for Chelsea but I'd sell him and acquire Isco/James/X player instead. Hazard's far too overrated imo.
Is Hazard the #3 right now? I don't know, man. He's definitely up there around the top 5, though.
Suarez isn't above Hazard this season. Bale neither.
He was basically Kante.
I loved him.
Makelele was fantastic
But Perez preferred overrated Beckham
You're confusing who you think is the better player over his career, and who's the best player this season.
Hazard at #3 isn't far-fetched.
And you know as well as I do that forwards are basically the only ones considered for awards.
Frankly, who has had a great season this year among forwards?
Messi, Ronaldo so so, Hazard, Dybala, Cavani, Lemar, Griezmann, Neymar, Higuain, Lewandowski... I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
How is Hazard not top 5 here? He probably is top 3 in fact since players like Cavani will be underrated even though he's having a crazy season.
If we're playing about player quality, then Neymar and Suarez would never be top 3 IMO. There are plenty of important players in other positions and I'd argue Pique and Busquets have been at the very least as important as those two for Barca. And that's just for Barca.
Pique has been good this season. Not perfect, but still at a good level. Anyway, I'd love to know what the criticism of him on Dybala's first goal would be. Marking him tighter? Disagree with that. Only thing I can see is not moving to close him down once he had the ball, but I still think the shot goes around him anyway. Anyway, Pique has been very important the past two seasons now (on top of in the past).