No he didn’t, and he likely never will. The rest of your post is irrelevant.
Most overhyped prospects in recent memory?
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This weird kind of nebulous, mythical hype happens a lot with D for some reason. Ryan Murray, Erik Johnson, Adam Larsson, Seth Jones, Aaron Ekblad all had crazy #1 overall hype even though only two of them went #1. All were disappointing to varying degrees. I’m not at all sold on Schaefer either. Not saying he will disappoint like the above guys or making anything prediction for that matter. But there are parallels.
Hey look, it’s the guy comparing him to McDavid and talking about “multi Ross potential” in the other thread
And what is that, like a 9 game sample? Lol.
Suzuki scored at a nearly 120 point pace after the 4-Nations; do you expect him to win the Art Ross next year?
No? Didn’t think so. Every player in the league had stretches of PPG+ play at some point; it’s nearly meaningless. Cherry pick all you want.
On the other hand, Michkov was held pointless 41 times last season. That’s over half the season where he was absolutely useless, being a small soft perimeter winger who’s a liability when not scoring, and often even when he is. He had scoreless stretches of 6, 7, 5, 7, and 4 games sprinkled throughout season.
Michkov is one of the most overhyped prospects in a long time.
He scored 10+17 in 25 games after 4 Nations (don't forget he scored 27 points in first 27 NHL games). Celebrini scored 8+15 in 25 games after the break, Hutson 3+22 in 26 games...
And calling Michkov a perimeter player is like calling Hutson next Hedman (when he's actually next Gostisbehere)...
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So you expect Michkov to continue his pace after the 4-Nations going into next season. Do you expect Suzuki to continue his? If he does, he puts up around 120 points and likely wins the Art Ross next year.
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A 63-point rookie season at 20 for a high first-round pick is delivering on the hype. Comparing draft+2 or Draft+3 rookies, Michkov outscored Rantanen, Nylander, Marner, Connor, Raymond, Toews, Suzuki, Kopitar, Reinhart, Jarvis, Scheifele, and so on. My suggestion is to get on the hype train now because he’s only going to get better.
Also, you claimed the media favors him, which is incredibly ignorant.
I didn’t claim the media “favours him”. Learn to read. I said he was the resounding choice for the Calder.
And if Michkov’s season was “delivering on the hype”, what was Hutson’s? Hutson literally broke and/or tied several NHL records.
You're absolutely tilting man. Very unserious posts.
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I hate to say this but Patrik Laine is strong candidate in this contest.
If you want evidences look Laine now a one trick pony who's totally useless 5vs5.
If you want evidences look Laine now a one trick pony who's totally useless 5vs5.
I expect Michkov will outscore Suzuki next season, even if the Flyers PP keeps being terrible, and they still don't have any good offensive defensemen.
What's Hutson have to do with anything? He was under-hyped as well as Michkov. The 2 aren't incompatible.
So a player taken 7th overall is considered 'over-hyped' despite outscoring the 2, 3 and 4 picks (forwards) drafted ahead of him..... in his 1st year in NA and playing for a defensive-minded hardass? .
We've officially entered the Twilight Zone. Yesiree.
We've officially entered the Twilight Zone. Yesiree.
When there’s multiple people spamming “100 points this season”, “generational”, “multiple Art Ross potential”, comparing him to Gretzky (yes, Gretzky lmao) and McDavid in every related thread and arguing with and berating anyone who doesn’t agree, yes. It’s happening in this very thread, on this page in fact
.Most Habs fans thought he had top-six C upside - not unreasonable, considering he was a 1st round pick. His 3 goal debut didn’t change that for anyone serious. If you’re going to claim otherwise, prove it. A disappointment, yes, but one of the most hyped prospects? There was zero hype for Poehling lol.
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Give me some receipts on multiple posts from different people claiming that.When there’s multiple people spamming “100 points this season”, “generational”, “multiple Art Ross potential”, comparing him to Gretzky (yes, Gretzky lmao) and McDavid in every related thread and arguing with and berating anyone who doesn’t agree, yes. It’s happening in this very thread, on this page in fact
Until then you’re just a jealous Habs fan who doesn’t want to see Michkov do well because you passed on him for Reinbacher.
He’s going to be an excellent player in the NHL and enjoyed a fantastic rookie season. Definitely not overhyped.
Go read all the old Michkov threads, Calder threads, etc. It’s all in there for anyone to see. We’ve got a guy saying he’ll out score Suzuki next season on this very page lmao. This guy was comparing him to McDavid recently and saying he has “multiple Art Ross potential”. Go look.
Also, I don’t like the Reinbacher pick and never did. Didn’t want Michkov at the draft either, but I have no problem acknowledging that he would’ve been a much better pick than Reinbacher and will be the vastly superior player (he already is).
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Just because a few select individuals had some ridiculous takes it doesn't mean he's overhyped as a whole. General consensus among scouts and fans is he'd become an elite winger, his first year did nothing to dispel that.
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I agree however Suzuki is a 2 way centre and michkov is a winger with no defence.
But Suzuki is 5 years (6 draft classes) older and in the prime of his career right now. Should be pretty close. Suzuki will still be better but michkov has a much higher offensive potential when he’s Suzukis age
I’d be ecstatic if Demidov gets 50-65 points next season, and I think that’s likely what will happen.
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I’ve told you multiple times where you can find those takes. They’re there if you ever want to see them. Like I said, two of the crazies are active in this thread right now. “Spun up” lmao. One of them said, “even if Michkov only ends up better than Kucherov” on the page before this one, ffs
And Hutson and Michkov are in different tiers of players right now. Hutson was 7th in scoring for his position in the entire NHL. Where did Michkov rank among forwards?
Hutson just put up the 5th best season for rookie D all time, and broke NHL records. Adjusted for era, his rookie season was the best ever by a D. Where does Michkov’s rookie season rank all time for forwards? What records did he break? Adjusted for era, his rookie season is significantly worse than a guy like Michael Ryder lol. His rookie season was roughly on par with Trent Hunter’s when accounting for era lol. He very likely wouldn’t have been a finalist that year either lmao, if you could somehow put him there. He doesn’t measure up lol.
Your Calder argument is a fallacy.
Hunter and Ryder were 24 when they were named Calder finalists. Eric Staal was the 3rd OA pick and finished 14th in Calder voting that same year. Guess who had the better career?
Anze Kopitar was fourth in Calder voting in his draft+2. Carey Price was the most hyped goalie prospect in the league and finished fourth in Calder voting. Both going to the HHOF.
Steve Mason won the Calder over Pekka Rinne. Guess who’s ending up in the HHOF? That same year, Kris Versteeg was a Calder finalist over Drew Doughty and Steven Stamkos. Versteeg is definitely not going to the HHOF.
Marner, Nylander, and Tkachuk were all top-10 picks and none were finalists for the 2017 Calder. All should end up in the HHOF.
Again, by your ridiculous logic, Carey Price was an overrated goalie.
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Poehling did have top 6 upside, not a guarantee but enough to it. He was on a good development path to become a 3c with a bit of upside to him, similar to how Jake Evans is now.
Fans couldn't predict what happens behind closed doors, we had no way of knowing he lacked the gym drive to get to the next level. It was reported that he admitted to team staff that he didn't workout during the COVID break between the June 2020 and return to play January 2021 which caused him to show up almost 40lbs heavier, noticably slower, and caused him to lose his role on the team moving forward.
He's established himself as a 30pt NHLer, I'm still convinced he would have been a 45-50pt player if he had a bit more gym drive.
Doesn’t matter. Michkov still had a worse rookie season than them. The fact that they were older doesn’t magically make Michkov’s season any better.
Once again, this is just a narrative you made up to argue against instead because you lack the critical thinking skills and honesty to debate anything anyone has actually said.
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