Morgan Rielly

[58 Years No Cup]

Didn't he have a baby right before season started? Anyone with kids knows first year is a shock to the system for a normal person let alone a professional athlete.

While I am onboard for a change, I would not be shocked if he stayed and put up 40 points this season.

He didn't have a baby Tessa did. Men with way lesser jobs have to go work hard to support their families and they don't make millions.

 

[Tak7]

He didn't have a baby Tessa did. Men with way lesser jobs have to go work hard to support their families and they don't make millions.

My wife had our baby. Not me. I worked my ass off to support them. I still do.

The first year and a half of my baby's life was the most turbulent of my entire life - the adjustments are wild.

 

[Tak7]

Didn't he have a baby right before season started? Anyone with kids knows first year is a shock to the system for a normal person let alone a professional athlete.

While I am onboard for a change, I would not be shocked if he stayed and put up 40 points this season.

With Marner gone, he probably ends up back on PP1 again, which will at least help with his production again.

 

[Stephen]

Didn't he have a baby right before season started? Anyone with kids knows first year is a shock to the system for a normal person let alone a professional athlete.

While I am onboard for a change, I would not be shocked if he stayed and put up 40 points this season.

You can be a new dad but there’s still a job to do. I don’t think that’s our business whether he’s getting enough sleep etc.

 

[Fogelhund]

If you got to games live (for past 40+ years like I have you) da 1st thing you will notice ASAP is Morgan has lost 2 or 3 steps past 2 years .. he can't make up for his poor offensive or defensive reads anymore with speed like he used to .. it happens to every player but much more with D who rely on speed for their success .. his hands are not great .. they never were .. he can't play blue line on PP because his hands are poor .. his shot is far below NHL average on speed front (thought it always has been) .. bottom line what he used to make him an offensive threat is done .. he will be out of NHL in next year or two .. next summer will be his buyout year because he will be unplayable

His shot speed is 58th percentile in the league.. so, above average, not far below, though he does take a lot of muffin shots too. His reduced foot speed, is still 78th percentile in the league.

I'd bet he has a bounce back season....

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

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[IPS]

His shot speed is 58th percentile in the league.. so, above average, not far below, though he does take a lot of muffin shots too. His reduced foot speed, is still 78th percentile in the league.

I'd bet he has a bounce back season....

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

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I'd bet he doesn't. He's in decline and it's obvious.

 

[Fogelhund]

I'd bet he doesn't. He's in decline and it's obvious.

Ah yes... one of the cheerleaders for the Tavares is done group back in 2024. How did that work out?

 

[IPS]

Ah yes... one of the cheerleaders for the Tavares is done group back in 2024. How did that work out?

Looked pretty done to me against Florida. Max Domi has been a better playoff producer than him 2 years running now.

 

[ashs]

Instead of stepping up this year he took huge steps down and is gonna cost other members their jobs. He needs to go, he ain't serious at all.

 

[Fogelhund]

Looked pretty done to me against Florida. Max Domi has been a better playoff producer than him 2 years running now.

Nice spin job, and using small data sets, while ignoring his 74 point season.

What happened to... Tavares needs to be dropped from PP1, because he can't produce?
Oops.. 12 goals, 8 assists...

What happened to, he won't even produce like a 3C going forward?
Oops 74 points.

History of posts isn't erased... you've been quick to judge players as done in the past, and you are doing it again... this time about a guy who is top 30 in the NHL for D scoring, and currently 6th in D scoring for the playoffs... A guy who raised his game in the playoffs....

He's a guy who stepped up for us in the playoffs, leads the team in ice time 5v5... we'll see next year....

 

[Gaberd2608]

He didn't have a baby Tessa did. Men with way lesser jobs have to go work hard to support their families and they don't make millions.

He went to work and he supported his family. You don't think being sleep deprived with a newborn could affect anyone? Of the players who are the "problem", Rielly may not have impressed but he doesnt have the arrogance or attitude the others have.

I think we should trade him because we need a change but if we keep him, I wouldnt be surprised if he has a good season and bounces back.

 

[IPS]

Nice spin job, and using small data sets, while ignoring his 74 point season.

What happened to... Tavares needs to be dropped from PP1, because he can't produce?
Oops.. 12 goals, 8 assists...

What happened to, he won't even produce like a 3C going forward?
Oops 74 points.

History of posts isn't erased... you've been quick to judge players as done in the past, and you are doing it again... this time about a guy who is top 30 in the NHL for D scoring, and currently 6th in D scoring for the playoffs... A guy who raised his game in the playoffs....

He's a guy who stepped up for us in the playoffs, leads the team in ice time 5v5... we'll see next year....

I don't value regular season as much as you do.

You could tell by JT's pathetic performance against Boston in 2024 playoffs that he just straight up doesn't have the speed/ability to keep up in tough playoff series. And yes, he is indeed getting outperformed by Max Domi the 3C for 2 years running now in the posteason.

Posted many times during the 2024 regular season that JT's speed is going to get exposed bad come playoff time, and it did.

If you wanna keep valuing regular season success as some benchmark for your opinions, you do you.

@JT AM da real deal warned us many times this season that Rielly's declining speed is going to cost us playoff time, and it did.

 

[Ports]

When it comes to individual players there's nothing productive to take away from our game 7 loss, other than how one performs when the entire team has given up.

Depending on how quick you were, it took only the first minute or two to know the game was lost before it started.

The first 10 minutes the Leafs got caved but then they came back to out play the Panthers in the last ten minutes of the period and could easily have been leading after the first. The game turned against them when Rielly made that terrible pinch at the Leafs blueline and Seth Jones walked in alone and scored. That’s a play he just can’t make at that point in a 0-0 game where the first goal can make or break their season. His poor timing and body positioning tells it all. It’s a soft, lazy effort (he is so slow coming back) and changed the momentum back to the Panthers. On the Panthers third goal, he’s falling at the Leafs blue line, totally out of the play and then again he doesn’t even try to get back in the play. No hustle at all. Then he lets Luostarinen get behind him on the fourth goal for an easy deflection. Game over. Four goals and Rielly didn’t do his job on three of them. A 12 year veteran making rookie mistakes. Not a player I want on my team.

 

[Ports]

My wife had our baby. Not me. I worked my ass off to support them. I still do.

The first year and a half of my baby's life was the most turbulent of my entire life - the adjustments are wild.

How many players wives have babies before or during the season ? Do they all play like crap after that ? This excuse doesn’t hold water. Hire a nanny, sleep in a separate room. Take the year off. Whatever it takes to earn your $7.5M and help the team win a cup.

 

[IPS]

How many players wives have babies before or during the season ? Do they all play like crap after that ? This excuse doesn’t hold water. Hire a nanny, sleep in a separate room. Take the year off. Whatever it takes to earn your $7.5M and help the team win a cup.

This is a complete myth for all athletes across the board.

UFC fighter Islam Makhachev had his 3rd child 10 days before his fight camp and he still came in in incredible shape and submitted a short notice replacement inside 1 round.

Nazem Kadri and his wife had their child in July 2019 and Kadri had a great season+playoffs for Colorado.

People tend to pick and choose their excuses if they have an emotional attachment to the player/athlete.

 

[darrylsittler27]

All the Leafs are good at is excuses. I'm glad I don't pay to watch . The Leafs need a number one dman and Reilly isn't.

 

[Americanadian]

This is a complete myth for all athletes across the board.

UFC fighter Islam Makhachev had his 3rd child 10 days before his fight camp and he still came in in incredible shape and submitted a short notice replacement inside 1 round.

Nazem Kadri and his wife had their child in July 2019 and Kadri had a great season+playoffs for Colorado.

People tend to pick and choose their excuses if they have an emotional attachment to the player/athlete.

We did see a few players (Benoit, Rielly, Crouse) have their first child prior to the start of this season and saw their play drop off a cliff.

Everyone reacts differently to having their first child. There are different stressors that are unique to each family.

I want Rielly gone because of his declining performance prior to having a child but I'm not going to pretend that having a child isn't a factor in the season he just had.

 

[BlueForever75]

I will drive Reilly to airport so he can spend time in back with child. FOR FREE

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Exactly

I’m glad to have Rielly. He plays a key role for Toronto, seemingly off the ice as well.

I like Defensive D and wouldn’t have resigned him but I’m not in the locker room to assess his contribution there

He’ll be on Robidas island soon.

I think his body is dead. The team knew it as well. He's LTIR sooner than people think.

i always wanted to believe in "playoff Rielly" but i never knew what people were talking about.

His future is Robidas island.

 

[notbias]

This thread proves how braindead our fanbase on this board is.

Still one of the best D on the team, people just like shiny new toys.

 

[Ports]

This is a complete myth for all athletes across the board.

UFC fighter Islam Makhachev had his 3rd child 10 days before his fight camp and he still came in in incredible shape and submitted a short notice replacement inside 1 round.

Nazem Kadri and his wife had their child in July 2019 and Kadri had a great season+playoffs for Colorado.

People tend to pick and choose their excuses if they have an emotional attachment to the player/athlete.

True. The excuses given and lack of objectivity about Rielly is proof of that. Seems there are fans of teams who don’t get too attached to individual players because they want what is best for the team and fans of individual players who don’t get too attached to the team’s success or lack thereof as long as their favourite players are kept on the team.

 

[Ports]

This thread proves how braindead our fanbase on this board is.

Still one of the best D on the team, people just like shiny new toys.

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And you like the rusty ones that have fallen apart and are no longer of any use.

 

[notbias]

And you like the rusty ones that have fallen apart and are no longer of any use.

Can you prove that he is bad compared to the other D on the team without using random situations but overall play?

I appreciate your post though, it is a good example of the braindead posts I mentioned.

 

[Stephen]

And you like the rusty ones that have fallen apart and are no longer of any use.

I always find it counterintuitive that some people could watch Morgan Rielly cough up a 0-0 Game 7 game changing turnover to Seth Jones, floodgates open, series over… or somehow forget to pick up David Pastrnak on a series ending OT goal… and then go back to an excel spreadsheet to disprove what they just saw: catastrophic season ending BS by your longest serving player.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I'd imagine he would consider waiving for Vancouver. Might be a short list if at all after that