Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[Deadpool8812]

You’re an incredibly bad evaluator of hockey talent, and evidently too lazy to look at the stats which show that Frost has been strong defensively for three years now. Unlike Tippett and Laughton, who have been gashed in goals against at 5on5.

Skill means nothing when you're a Flyer

 

[bennysflyers16]

This is a good watch, boys seem super happy to be paroled.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Farabee: “Philly they really focus on the mistakes. Trying to fix the mistakes. Here they focus on the positives”

Frost chuckles (and agrees) when asked if they are allowed to be more creative in Calgary.

They are pros. Answered without throwing Philly under the bus, but it’s a telling interview imo.

 

[Audible Velvet]

Farabee: “Philly they really focus on the mistakes. Trying to fix the mistakes. Here they focus on the positives”

Frost chuckles (and agrees) when asked if they are allowed to be more creative in Calgary.

They are pros. Answered without throwing Philly under the bus, but it’s a telling interview imo.

“Smart teams/dumb teams” was right again.

 

[renberg]

The Flyers are a pathetic organization. The saddest part is that they don’t recognize their issues. Can’t fix what you don’t know.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Farabee: “Philly they really focus on the mistakes. Trying to fix the mistakes. Here they focus on the positives”

Frost chuckles (and agrees) when asked if they are allowed to be more creative in Calgary.

They are pros. Answered without throwing Philly under the bus, but it’s a telling interview imo.

Bang on, super professional by both of them, but man do they look happy to be free from this garbage can shit show.

 

[ajgoal]

Farabee: “Philly they really focus on the mistakes. Trying to fix the mistakes. Here they focus on the positives”

Frost chuckles (and agrees) when asked if they are allowed to be more creative in Calgary.

They are pros. Answered without throwing Philly under the bus, but it’s a telling interview imo.

What loser energy. Positives are for the mentally weak. They need to spend some time in front of a little machine that throws pucks at them at 150mph for them to block.

 

[BringBackFletcher]

This is a good watch, boys seem super happy to be paroled.

These two are too genuine and kind of people for me to believe whatever BS propaganda will end up getting spewed out about them from the organization

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

 

[ellja3]

I am just happy for them both, that's all.

These two are too genuine and kind of people for me to believe whatever BS propaganda will end up getting spewed out about them from the organization

Was there any? Genuine question

 

[Deadpool8812]

This is a good watch, boys seem super happy to be paroled.

Honestly, really concerning comments about how things are done in Philly. This confirms a lot of which many fans believed: players are too scared to do anything due to the threat of Tortorella disciplining them.

This is not the type of mentality you want.

 

[BringBackFletcher]

I am just happy for them both, that's all.



Was there any? Genuine question

Not really, other than minimizing their on ice contributions via allowing Torts to mess with them and trading them for pennies

 

[BernieParent]

Frost and Farabee going to Calgary.

Kuzmenko and Pelletier going to Philadelphia.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Farabee: “Philly they really focus on the mistakes. Trying to fix the mistakes. Here they focus on the positives”

Frost chuckles (and agrees) when asked if they are allowed to be more creative in Calgary.

They are pros. Answered without throwing Philly under the bus, but it’s a telling interview imo.

It has long been delusion to think this isn't the case

 

[1865]

You’re an incredibly bad evaluator of hockey talent, and evidently too lazy to look at the stats which show that Frost has been strong defensively for three years now. Unlike Tippett and Laughton, who have been gashed in goals against at 5on5.

After i posted that I went and researched Frost's defensive play and I have to hold my hands up - i was wrong there. I stand my ground on everything else, but we're going round in circles here and god knows I ain't arguing with any of you on this fine day of victory. Go Birds.

 

[Beef Invictus]

After i posted that I went and researched Frost's defensive play and I have to hold my hands up - i was wrong there. I stand my ground on everything else, but we're going round in circles here and god knows I ain't arguing with any of you on this fine day of victory. Go Birds.

You may perhaps see now why so many of us can't believe how badly they handled him. The team has completely failed in evaluating their own player.

What's worse, they made their evaluation known to the entire world. The NHL is a perception-driven league fighting tooth and nail to avoid giving into assessment via measured results. Frost's measurable defensive results for a long time now are good. But the team doesn't "feel" like he's good because he isn't grinding enough or some shit. Hell, the fact that his defensive acumen reduces his need to block shots probably actively works against him.

So a team that was never going to use measurements of his results to drive up his value and instead rely entirely on perception, has spent years completely ruining the perception of Frost as a player by telling everyone who would listen that they (falsely) believed him to be bad defensively. Which made it inevitable that another team who knew what they were looking at was going to come in and lowball the unholy wet dung out of this management group.

It was from start to finish the Flyers' magnum opus in wretched development, handling, and PR around a player.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

You may perhaps see now why so many of us can't believe how badly they handled him. The team has completely failed in evaluating their own player.

What's worse, they made their evaluation known to the entire world. The NHL is a perception-driven league fighting tooth and nail to avoid giving into assessment via measured results. Frost's measurable defensive results for a long time now are good. But the team doesn't "feel" like he's good because he isn't grinding enough or some shit. Hell, the fact that his defensive acumen reduces his need to block shots probably actively works against him.

So a team that was never going to use measurements of his results to drive up his value and instead rely entirely on perception, has spent years completely ruining the perception of Frost as a player by telling everyone who would listen that they (falsely) believed him to be bad defensively. Which made it inevitable that another team who knew what they were looking at was going to come in and lowball the unholy wet dung out of this management group.

It was from start to finish the Flyers' magnum opus in wretched development, handling, and PR around a player.

MM is next..

#buckle in...

 

[Beef Invictus]

MM is next..

#buckle in...

My money is gonna be on Brink. Always the playmakers first, but eventually they will scapegoat him to cover for themselves

 

[Flyerfan4life]

My money is gonna be on Brink. Always the playmakers first, but eventually they will scapegoat him to cover for themselves

oooohh.. then we can call him Bobby Bust..

imaright!!!

 

[BernieParent]

My money is gonna be on Brink. Always the playmakers first, but eventually they will scapegoat him to cover for themselves

$20 on York.

 

[freakydallas13]

$20 on York.

He definitely seems next in line to be the new scape goat. Again, not because he's been bad or disappointing, but because he isn't what the team wants him to be.

 

[dragonoffrost]

He definitely seems next in line to be the new scape goat. Again, not because he's been bad or disappointing, but because he isn't what the team wants him to be.

and by team you mean Torts

 

[freakydallas13]

and by team you mean Torts

The team too. The braintrust wants players to play the Torts way as much as Torts does.

 

[ponder719]

and by team you mean Torts

You say this like there's any daylight between Torts' ass and the FO's lips.