Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[Hollywood Cannon]

I was told this wasn’t going to happen.

Everything we’ve said about this team is right.

The 18 month to contender timeline is real.

 

[kudymen]

Someguy: "This clearly shows they are deep sixing this season and start a rebuild."

Briére: "For us it is not giving up on a season, this is really a move for the future and Kuzmenko has shown he is a gamebreaker."

Round round LOL around lolling around

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Briére: "Kuzmenko has shown he is a gamebreaker."

Is that a real quote?!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Sunday is going to be fun.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Danko]

What are we doing. Why are things the way that they are.

 

[kudymen]

"Would you waive your NTC? We wanna have a look at you" would be an amusing quote

Is that a real quote?!

My non-english brain believes those words have been used and said in that order but someone might correct me

 

[SnS]

Dogshit organization gonna Dogshit organization

 

[VladDrag]

Over his head, they don’t have a coherent plan

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Sometimes I like their moves. Sometimes I don't. But the stated reasons for doing these things never make sense. There is no evidence of a coherent plan.

 

[VladDrag]

Is that a real quote?!

yes

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

"Would you waive your NTC? We wanna have a look at you" would be an amusing quote



My non-english brain believes those words have been used and said in that order but someone might correct me

"Would you waive your NTC? We wanna have a look at you. The cap is going up.” would be an amusing quote

 

[FlyerNutter]

Just read it at face value. They usually telegraph pretty clearly what they think/will do.

- Farabee had negative value related to the contract.

He won’t say it was because of Tortorella but alluded to a lack of development by both, when compared to other younger guys on the team.

- Cap space kept being brought up. For anyone that doesn’t think they aren’t the flyers of old, with the same bullshit philosophies - it’s on display.

Free agency is where they hope to acquire a good chunk of their talent. With this pro scouting staff, and the kind of players that usually hit UFA seeking paydays. That’s terrifying.

Briere is an idiot. Shocking considering the men who “taught” him. Gear up for another decade lost. If he thinks it was hard to clear Farabee’s salary, just wait until he sees the league interest for the guys hill will open the paycheque for in UFA.

 

[Danko]

It's time to rip the band aid off. Your willing to take an L on a trade but your holding out for the perfect deal for Laughton, Risto, etc... You don't say your going to do this the right way when your getting goodwill pricing in trades. Maybe we will be ready to excelerate the rebuild by the time that 7th round pick is selected

Free agency is where they hope to acquire a good chunk of their talent. With this pro scouting staff, and the kind of players that usually hit UFA seeking paydays. That’s terrifying.

They wanted to go after Kuzmenko in free agency even

 

[sauce88]

"Would you waive your NTC? We wanna have a look at you. The cap is going up.” would be an amusing quote

"You almost got waived so show us you can play well in 30 games, think of the money we'll throw at you".

Followed by this guy's play falling off a cliff cause he got the bag.

 

[VladDrag]

Just read it at face value. They usually telegraph pretty clearly what they think/will do.

- Farabee had negative value related to the contract.

He won’t say it was because of Tortorella but alluded to a lack of development by both, when compared to other younger guys on the team.

- Cap space kept being brought up. For anyone that doesn’t think they aren’t the flyers of old, with the same bullshit philosophies - it’s on display.

Free agency is where they hope to acquire a good chunk of their talent. With this pro scouting staff, and the kind of players that usually hit UFA seeking paydays. That’s terrifying.

Briere is an idiot. Shocking considering the men who “taught” him.

I thought this quote from Charlie was kind of pertinent to the bolded above. Pretty clear indication that the organization just wasn’t happy with Frost or Farabee’s progress.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

I thought this quote from Charlie was kind of pertinent to the bolded above. Pretty clear indication that the organization just wasn’t happy with Frost or Farabee’s progress.

And rightfully so.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Im just going to post the old lineup in the GDT and leave two blanks because I don't feel like figuring out how they're solving the unforced problems they've made for themselves

 

[Beef Invictus]

I was told this wasn’t going to happen.

Everything we’ve said about this team is right.

The 18 month to contender timeline is real.

Sounds more like 18 months is their longest case scenario and they're putting that out there to sell low. They think they're contending next season.

 

[sauce88]

I thought this quote from Charlie was kind of pertinent to the bolded above. Pretty clear indication that the organization just wasn’t happy with Frost or Farabee’s progress.

I think Tippett is gonna regress pretty hard. Frost seemed to be the only center he connected with in terms of looking to make plays. I fear he's going to go back to blind turret Tippett.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I thought this quote from Charlie was kind of pertinent to the bolded above. Pretty clear indication that the organization just wasn’t happy with Frost or Farabee’s progress.

Which to me is fine. I wasn’t either really.

Doesn’t mean they are useless, and you are forced to sell at the absolute lowest you can. Makes me think they wanted to move Farabee for a while without retention, and jumped at the chance when Calgary was willing. So be it, I don’t disagree with that move.

With Frost as well, you weren’t going to extend him. So be it.

My actual issue with the moves isn’t the moves themselves. It’s that they seem far too willing to overuse free agency to acquire talent - which is a death sentence in today’s NHL.

The bigger issue to me…

Only Sanheim (barely), and TK remain from quite a promising group of players not drafted too long ago. It’s far too convenient to blame it on Hextall, and lack any further analysis into various staff/departments - but that’s what they are doing.

 

[ponder719]

I think Tippett is gonna regress pretty hard. Frost seemed to be the only center he connected with in terms of looking to make plays. I fear he's going to go back to blind turret Tippett.

Oh Jesus hell. Current Tippett is barely tolerable. Bad Tippett might just radicalize me into considering violence

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I thought this quote from Charlie was kind of pertinent to the bolded above. Pretty clear indication that the organization just wasn’t happy with Frost or Farabee’s progress.

This is one of those things that's completely fine on the surface. Every org is going to have guys that don't work out.

But it sure doesn't refute some common talking points like path of least resistance and favored sons given other trade rumors.

You can spin this basically any way and it's not crazy.

 

[Tripod]

Farabee is less than 1 year removed from a 50npoint season and Frost was our top scoring and youngest C. Oh, and 3rd in pts for forwards.

Idiots

 

[Beef Invictus]

York has also stagnated, I don't think Foerster is developing like I'd want him to at all, and Cates is in a contract year so they're utter losers if they don't account for that.

Brink and Andrae are really the only ones who I have marked as overall clear-cut no buts positives in development, and they're getting there by doing a ton of things the team actively despises with every scrap of their being. So, they're doing it on their own and against guidance from above.