Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[ponder719]

It's terrifying to ponder what they think they're going to do with that cap space

Everything they do is terrifying to Ponder, you're absolutely correct.

 

[Hextallent63]

Just watched the presser from calgarys gm, what stood out the most to me was how excited he was about the type of players frost and farabee are. what a novel frigging idea.

 

[kudymen]

I have no problem losing these two, I just wish they had obtained a 1st or one of Calgary's better prospects.

If you think the return doesn't fit what the team needs, why bother shitting again on that player in the rest of the post?

Abols, watching him he's for real,

Are you the same person who repeatedly said the board overrates its prospects?

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Conroy looked jacked in the post trade press conference.

Man, I almost forget how that feels.

 

[freakydallas13]

I don't see any demonizing, Torts gave Frost and Farabee plenty of chances to prove themselves.

Farabee flatlined, maybe b/c he adjusted quickly with his smarts but over time his physical limitations won out, he never filled out and isn't that strong, he has average speed, average shot though good hands near the net, but lacks the anchor for the dirty area. He's better than he's shown this season (Sh% is half his norm), but never developed into a reliable 2LW. Good scorer who needs to play with better players.

Same with Frost, who had his best season two years ago (under Torts) but hasn't been able to build upon it. He just lacks "it," he's good in open ice but simply isn't a great playmaker in the "half court" or on the PP. Very good but not great speed and he doesn't play as fast as his timed speed. He's never been able to add functional strength and gets knocked off the puck too easily. He's responsible defensively but depends on his stick. A dependable middle six center who was never able to develop into a 2C.

They don't fit the Flyers style, which is fast and physical down the middle (Cates, Poehling, Jett), allowing a mix of size and skill at wing (TK, Brink, Michkov and Tippett, Foerster). Which suggests they're looking for another center in trade/the draft who fits their prototype - full size, above average speed, high IQ, two way player.

This move suggests Briere is ready for a fire sale this spring, if they thought they could stay in the playoff race they'd have waited until June to move Frost.

Farabee isn't a reliable second line winger. Not like median second line winger Noah Cates.

 

[ugiswrong]

This is a crack pipe take. Holy shit.

I lean Angel Dust since crack at least theoretically offers false hope

 

[freakydallas13]

Frost was top six by default (though Couts has outscored him at ES, 23 to 18).
Farabee was the 3LW.
They would not have been top six next year, I think they had already slotted Jett ahead of Frost.
Michkov, TK, Tippett, Foerster, Brink were all ahead of Farabee. Pelletier will replace him on the 3rd line.

Frost wasn't suppressed, he just wasn't as good as people here think he was. He played with Michkov, TK and Tippett, our three best scoring forwards and had mediocre production.
In Calgary he'll play with Farabee and Sharangovich on their 3rd line.
Abols will replace him in the short-run, but his long-term replacement isn't on the team.

I have no problem losing these two, I just wish they had obtained a 1st or one of Calgary's better prospects.

Just for posterity, do you still not believe this is the trade return because it doesn't make a lick of sense? I'm trying to correctly position where on the boot it is exactly you planted your tongue.

Frost was producing points at the same rate golden child Tippet was by the way. One we sign for 8 years and one we trade for table scraps.

 

[trostol]

wow lol

 

[HighLifeManIsHigh]

You guys will love Pelts, sucks losing him. Might be the biggest glue guy I’ve ever seen. He’s been playing really well since his last call-up. He won’t be much more than a middle six guy that kills penalties and chips in 15-20 in his prime, but you guys will love him.

Kuzy is hilarious. He’s an easy guy to cheer for. His interviews are the best. Play wise, when he’s on, he’s f***ing great. When he’s off, you won’t even notice him.

I don’t think you guys did as bad as everyone is saying. Especially finding out that Kuzy and Michkov are good buddies.

Anyways, take care of Pelts. He’s the friggin best

 

[thaman8765678]

Flames fan here, just giving my observations on the players.

Pelletier is a hard working player who doesn't take shifts off. He also is good for the room as he has a great attitude, his teammates loved him. With regards to his skill, he has played up and down the lineup, he has some potential to be a 2nd/3rd line guy but size and consistency is an issue. He was great for us the last few weeks, so hopefully he has continued success. You'll cheer for him for sure, it's a bit weird he was on waivers earlier in the year unclaimed but he was also recovering from an injury.

Kuzmenko is a bit of an interesting player. He has really hot and cold streaks. He started last year by being one of our best players after the trade and rejuvenated the pp. However, this year he has been in and out of the lineup because of defensive effort issues. He has played better lately but it seems it's an effort thing with him, he has tons of talent otherwise. One of those cases where he could put up 40 goals if he wanted to but just seems he does not care most of the time.

 

[Striiker]

I’d just like to take this opportunity to introduce the idea of everyone here, as a group, totally abandoning this dead franchise and switching fandom to a completely different team, in a completely different sport.

That way we maintain this board’s dynamic while removing the biggest source of irritation from the equation.

We just rebrand the board and pretend nothing happened. Nobody will even notice.