Farabee at 5M for next 3.5 years for Kuzmenko and his expiring contract? And Frost for 2nd, 7th and Pelletier? Are you sure you don't see why did they do it?
Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee traded to Calgary for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th
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Farabee at 5M for next 3.5 years for Kuzmenko and his expiring contract? And Frost for 2nd, 7th and Pelletier? Are you sure you don't see why did they do it?
as a Flyers fan..we don't understand why we did this either
People still don't understand the value of free cap space, it's sad. Phily gets $6.3M for this postseason plus 2nd, 7th and Pelletier for Farabee and Frost. I assure you, it's not that bad at all.
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deadhead
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I don't see any demonizing, Torts gave Frost and Farabee plenty of chances to prove themselves.
Farabee flatlined, maybe b/c he adjusted quickly with his smarts but over time his physical limitations won out, he never filled out and isn't that strong, he has average speed, average shot though good hands near the net, but lacks the anchor for the dirty area. He's better than he's shown this season (Sh% is half his norm), but never developed into a reliable 2LW. Good scorer who needs to play with better players.
Same with Frost, who had his best season two years ago (under Torts) but hasn't been able to build upon it. He just lacks "it," he's good in open ice but simply isn't a great playmaker in the "half court" or on the PP. Very good but not great speed and he doesn't play as fast as his timed speed. He's never been able to add functional strength and gets knocked off the puck too easily. He's responsible defensively but depends on his stick. A dependable middle six center who was never able to develop into a 2C.
They don't fit the Flyers style, which is fast and physical down the middle (Cates, Poehling, Jett), allowing a mix of size and skill at wing (TK, Brink, Michkov and Tippett, Foerster). Which suggests they're looking for another center in trade/the draft who fits their prototype - full size, above average speed, high IQ, two way player.
This move suggests Briere is ready for a fire sale this spring, if they thought they could stay in the playoff race they'd have waited until June to move Frost.
Farabee flatlined, maybe b/c he adjusted quickly with his smarts but over time his physical limitations won out, he never filled out and isn't that strong, he has average speed, average shot though good hands near the net, but lacks the anchor for the dirty area. He's better than he's shown this season (Sh% is half his norm), but never developed into a reliable 2LW. Good scorer who needs to play with better players.
Same with Frost, who had his best season two years ago (under Torts) but hasn't been able to build upon it. He just lacks "it," he's good in open ice but simply isn't a great playmaker in the "half court" or on the PP. Very good but not great speed and he doesn't play as fast as his timed speed. He's never been able to add functional strength and gets knocked off the puck too easily. He's responsible defensively but depends on his stick. A dependable middle six center who was never able to develop into a 2C.
They don't fit the Flyers style, which is fast and physical down the middle (Cates, Poehling, Jett), allowing a mix of size and skill at wing (TK, Brink, Michkov and Tippett, Foerster). Which suggests they're looking for another center in trade/the draft who fits their prototype - full size, above average speed, high IQ, two way player.
This move suggests Briere is ready for a fire sale this spring, if they thought they could stay in the playoff race they'd have waited until June to move Frost.
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Yes it does. So if you want to trade those guys to make your team better, how is a rental, prospect who hasn't stuck, and a 2nd round pick an improvement?
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Hahahahahaha oh that's the problem. You don't understand what Philly uses cap space for. Oh, no. They aren't going to use it to improve.
They have gotten worse with this trade and will not get better.
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Here it is everyone. He's done a hard system reset and is fully on board with a blatant Risto-level loss.
Set your phone's to remind you in three years, because that's about when he will be running all over this move as justification for firing Briere and hiring whatever god forsaken slob Clarke knows next.
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Pretty useless once they burn it on redundant depth players instead of talent. Which they now have even less of, despite already being critically short.
This is like trading TK for a 2029 3rd and proclaiming it's good because you have cap space. It makes no sense.
So you cry not about what the trade brings right now but about what it will bring?
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It's bad now and whatever they do next will also be bad
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No. They traded 2 NHL players for two guys who are not established NHL players, and one of those is a 29 year old Russian winger.
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It's not 2021 and COVID. The cap is going up $9M next year.
Though I suspect Danny's been shopping both players, which tells you how much more this board values them than the NHL if this was his best offer.
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Uh, both. The team has gotten worse in the short and long term, and they will use the cap space to cement bad deals. They always do this.
Briere promised us they would not build with expensive talent. They aren't paying anyone. They're going to overinvest in bottom six grinders that they heavily overrate.
You only just hopped onto the Flyers recently because of Michkov, right? You're gonna learn. Fear not. You'll be grateful when he moves to a competent team by the time this is done.
The next time the Flyers use cap space well will be the first time in...well, since the cap came into being.
Magua
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I am begging for someone to ask Briere why he didn’t just claim Pelletier off waivers for free in October. It might be an all-time answer. Non-zero chance he says, “Because it’s got electrolytes.”
Tripod
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Do you wonder why every person disagrees with you including Flames fans? Oh, and guy why defends EVERYTHING in Dead?
Go look at the main board...Flyers got killed in the trade is the overwhelming feeling.
Maybe you are just wrong.
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Hmm yeah they have, though. Two of their top six gone, with nothing coming close to replacing them. It is true that in any other actually good team they aren't in that tier, but they are here. For this team it's quite a blow, and nothing has come back. And they plan on contending in 2027!
Just because they were playmakers being suppressed under a coach who forbids playmaking doesn't mean they're not talented. They're way better than the players we just got. Expect them to bounce back when they're allowed to actually play their game.
