More MVP Worthy Player: Mackinnon, Kuch or Drai?
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We have not seen the last of McDavid winning Art Ross trophies. I know you need it to not happen to protect the Penguins, but outside of Gretzky, he will be the most decorated player ever.
MVP is Draisaitl. He may be third in the art ross but neither player ahead of him has had a bigger impact. I’m taking the guy with ~20 more goals when the points difference is negligible
Draisaitl just broke the record for the most overtime goals in a season. He's scored 51 goals, only 2 of them being on empty nets. King Leon is clearly the MVP of the league this season. Oilers would be nowhere near the playoffs without Draisaitl.
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One of the few players to consistently shoot around 20% while scoring 50
he would literally be first in the league with points if you exclude empty net points
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Now look at the standings. Also compare the Jets record with and without Helle in net and get back to us.
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Considering goals, GWG and empty net help it's clearly Drai at this point. I don't think it's that close if you look at it obviously tbh.
It could change if MacK or Kuch go on a serious heater the remaining games. But only if Drai is showing subpar performances.
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Drai was my choice. To me he’s been the best player this year. Getting hurt sucks. Hopefully he finishes strong.
As for Mac vs Kucherov, I’d give it to Kuch this year seeing as how it went the other way last season.
Helleybuck deserves serious consideration though. He might be the right pick.
As for Mac vs Kucherov, I’d give it to Kuch this year seeing as how it went the other way last season.
Helleybuck deserves serious consideration though. He might be the right pick.
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Sans ENP totals for the three in question:
Draisaitl: 49-51-100 in 69 GP
Kucherov: 31-68-99 in 69 GP
MacKinnon: 26-70-96 in 74 GP
Draisaitl: 49-51-100 in 69 GP
Kucherov: 31-68-99 in 69 GP
MacKinnon: 26-70-96 in 74 GP
Draisaitl has more points than him, not counting empty-netters. Oh and 18 more goals. Oh, and he is better defensively. Oh, and the entire Oilers team has underperformed this year except for him.
I think the players are aware enough to vote Draisaitl.
It's about a dead heat. Drai has the best numbers but having McDavid on your team all but eliminates him to me, since he's really not even the mvp of his own team.
I think Kucherov deserves it more due to him being robbed by Mack for one already.
I think Kucherov deserves it more due to him being robbed by Mack for one already.
Drai has better stats for sure, and probably is the better player, imo he is. But he's not more valuable... and Drai doesn't have a defensive advantage over any forward in the league, he's putrid defensively.
Drai is amongst one of the worst defensive forwards in the league so i guess that eliminates him too?
Buddy you couldn't be more wrong about Leon's defense this year. His entire game has ratcheted up this season. He should seriously warrant Selke votes for his play this year. He has always had the ability but was a bit lazy defensively, this year that is not the case at all.
Draisaitl is significantly better than 97 this year and every single person who watches the Oilers would agree. In 7 games without McDavid this year, Leon has 14 points.
MacKinnon plays with the best D in the NHL and played every shift with Rantanen or Necas, Kuch plays with Guentzel, Hagel and Point.
Draisaitls most common linemates are Arvidsson and Podkolzin lol
How is he not more valuable? The entire Oilers team has underperformed this year, all the forwards they brought in to play with him has underperformed. He plays with a mix of Podkolzin, Perry, Arvidsson, and Brown on his lines, sub 30 point players, and he is dragging this Oilers team along.
And he has been great defensively this year, you just dont pay attention if you claim otherwise. Seen many people mention him in Selke talks, he will probably at the very least get votes.
Basically every possession metric, micro stat and eye test would disagree with you this year. He's among the top forwards in basically all of them. Realistically he should be up for the Selke.
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Totally exposed yourself here.
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The Hart trophy is like Olympic Figure skating judging, let’s not pretend it’s fair and equitable. Like the Conn Smythe. I think the Lindsay might be more representative, but maybe not.
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This award is so reputation and narrative driven that it has become a bit of a joke. It's subject to a lot of ignorance and bias. The definition of the Hart doesn't even really matter. Voters just use whatever interpretation of it supports who they feel they want to pick.
Drai has been a glass cannon in the past, all offense and weak defense, and many people still think it's true. Also Drai and McDavid have been such a tight duo that it's easy to think of Drai as being buoyed by playing with McDavid. Nevermind that McDavid has had an off year by his standards. MacKinnon and Kucherov are better supported by their surrounding casts this season
Also MacKinnon had a great 4 nations tourney so of course media like that for their narratives.
Honestly though, the Hart doesn't seem to matter as much to the Oilers, and even the fans. Everyone is laser focused on the cup
