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More MVP Worthy Player: Mackinnon, Kuch or Drai?

I could see Helly getting the Hart and MacKinnon getting the Lindsay.

Drais doesnt have a chance now with injuries and McDavid being on his team.
Kucherov needs to win the Art Ross by a lot to get the Hart and that doesnt seem likely at this point.
 
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cbcwpg said:
Ask yourself.... Would their teams still win games if Mackinnon, Kuch or Drai were hurt for the season? Would they be a playoff team?

Then ask yourself... where would the Jets be if Helly had been out all year? Sure Comrie has 8 wins this season in 18 games, but if the Jets had to play Comrie all season, they would have been out of the playoffs by Christmas.

So who's the MVP to his team?
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Any team with a premier goalie would be worse off without them. Terrible argument.
 
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cbcwpg said:
Ask yourself.... Would their teams still win games if Mackinnon, Kuch or Drai were hurt for the season? Would they be a playoff team?

Then ask yourself... where would the Jets be if Helly had been out all year? Sure Comrie has 8 wins this season in 18 games, but if the Jets had to play Comrie all season, they would have been out of the playoffs by Christmas.

So who's the MVP to his team?
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Hyperbole at its finest. The Jets aren't riding solely on Hellebuck. The entire team is playing well this year.
 
cbcwpg said:
Ask yourself.... Would their teams still win games if Mackinnon, Kuch or Drai were hurt for the season? Would they be a playoff team?

Then ask yourself... where would the Jets be if Helly had been out all year? Sure Comrie has 8 wins this season in 18 games, but if the Jets had to play Comrie all season, they would have been out of the playoffs by Christmas.

So who's the MVP to his team?
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You can’t really extrapolate a small sample and assume the team would keep that record. The Jets have only scored 16 goals in Comrie’s 10 losses. That feels more like variance than a trend. Hellebuyck is in the conversation but Comrie’s numbers are still strong despite the record and a bunch of Jets are having good years.
 
jigglysquishy said:
In 2017-18 he finished second in Hart voting despite missing 8 games.
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That does not mean that he would had won it.

And if I remember right, the argument used to vote for Hall over McD (he carried his team to playoffs) would not had make sense for MacK over McD.

Actually, since MacK got much more votes than Giroux, Kucherov and Malkin shows that his injury did not hurt him in that voting.
 
One can argue that the past 3 games has shown the voters that every year it should be McDavid or Draisaitl as the Hart trophy winner if the Oilers are in the playoffs.
 
zar said:
One can argue that the past 3 games has shown the voters that every year it should be McDavid or Draisaitl as the Hart trophy winner if the Oilers are in the playoffs.
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One can also argue that the alignment of the celestial bodies is what's most important in determining the Hart winner.

Nobody would ever take either argument seriously, though.
 
nturn06 said:
That does not mean that he would had won it.

And if I remember right, the argument used to vote for Hall over McD (he carried his team to playoffs) would not had make sense for MacK over McD.

Actually, since MacK got much more votes than Giroux, Kucherov and Malkin shows that his injury did not hurt him in that voting.
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You dont rememeber correctly. Mack also finished over McDavid in hart voting. He was only a few votes away from winning and if he didnt get hurt, would have finish with as much points as McDavid that year.
 
a mangy Meowth said:
One can also argue that the alignment of the celestial bodies is what's most important in determining the Hart winner.

Nobody would ever take either argument seriously, though.
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Your guy is good at empty net points and isn’t even the best player on his own team this year.

Sit down.
 
I have been on these boards for some years. The fan boys mentality is dominant when millenials and especially zoomers frequent the boards. Focus on team and success for the team is subordinate to individual accolades. Anyone denying that is part of problem.

Yöung fans do not give a shit about the team, they only follow players for purpose to admire. To an unhealthy degree.
 
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johan f said:
Yöung fans do not give a shit about the team, they only follow players for purpose to admire. To an unhealthy degree.
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Just out of curiosity, why do you feel like you're the arbiter of deciding which reasons are the good ones to like or follow something or someone in sports, and which ones are deplorable?

To me, you seem a bit overly fixated on what other people think and feel, in a rather negative way. That doesn't seem healthy at all.
 
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Drai was never in this conversation.
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