News Article: More from Warren

[Sensung]

As training camp approaches, questions abound for Senators and fans

Where is the demand for our GM and/or owner to face the press and answer the questions surrounding the team and their plan going forward?

Where is the demand for our owner to face the press and answer the questions regarding his plan to gut the roster?

Why approach the players with questions when they have no control over their situation and are doing what is necessary to prepare for the season?

If Karlsson remains a Senator, everyone concedes he sits atop the leadership ladder in addition to being their most talented player.
If he’s not, somebody else, most likely Mark Stone, will assume that role.
It makes a difference.

Why is Warren promoting the idea that Stone will be captain when he just refused to make a long term commitment to the team?

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[Joeyjoejoe]

Because it's time for the yearly character assassination of our star player to make the fanbase ok with trading him for scraps.

 

[chipsens]

What about Ryan for C? He's got lots of character imo...maybe C would kick start him & he would be good spokesman.

 

[robsenz]

What about Ryan for C? He's got lots of character imo...maybe C would kick start him & he would be good spokesman.

Bobby seems like a good guy, but this would be an awful move...if he was like 50 and still in the NHL while being productive, then maybe he would get a shot. I would hate to see our leader lose 90% of the puck battles they are in, struggle to skate, stickhandle, shoot, basically do anything that an NHL player should do. Ryan is on his way out of the league and it could be as early as this season, after he suffers another 3 hand injuries.

 

[Tuna99]

Because it's time for the yearly character assassination of our star player to make the fanbase ok with trading him for scraps.

This is a major issue with managment, they did it with Redden and made him an enemy after he refused to waive his no-trade, they did it cruelly to Heatley, Spezza of course and managed to somehow screw up the Alfie file. And now EK is the cross-hairs. If you're Mark Stone, why would take the Captainship of the team knowing that ownership and management is months away from throwing you under the bus no matter how well you perform or how much you've done for the team.

This lack of trust between management and players is reason #1 nobody wants to come or stay in Ottawa. Oduya said it best, Ottawa doesn't have the organizational maturity or organizational leadership to handle anything - and that includes star players especially.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

What about Ryan for C? He's got lots of character imo...maybe C would kick start him & he would be good spokesman.

Making Ryan the captain would be incredibly embarrassing for the franchise, for who he is as a person and what he brings on the ice. Actually maybe he's perfect in many ways, he kind of embodies the futility and shame of the Sens. Maybe he's the captain the franchise deserves.

 

[Stylizer1]

Here's a suggestion, now think it through before you jump all over me
trade for Crosby. problem solved.

 

[slamigo]

Mark Stone is the de facto choice for captain. That's been floated for a long time. Warren is just rearranging the deck chairs.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Mark Stone is the de facto choice for captain. That's been floated for a long time. Warren is just rearranging the deck chairs.

That was floated before Stone signed a one year deal though.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Gaborik? Is he not going on LTIR? Why would the Sens want him in the lineup?

If Karlsson is not traded he will keep the C. If he is traded.. I could see them not naming a captain.

 

[solidprospect]

Didn't know Gaborik had back surgery.

 

[Masked]

Why is Warren speculating that Gaborik could be bought out? I thought the buyout period closed after the arbitration hearings?

 

[Tuna99]

Why is Warren speculating that Gaborik could be bought out? I thought the buyout period closed after the arbitration hearings?

I'm betting he does the Dorion/Mac buyout scheme - show up to camp, fail your medical, leave 2 hours later, never speak to anyone.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Gaborik seems like he'll end up on LTIR. Wasn't there a report from Slovakia or something recently that said he still wasn't able to skate?

 

[BonkTastic]

Why is Warren promoting the idea that Stone will be captain when he just refused to make a long term commitment to the team?

In the event that Karlsson is gone, giving Stone the C can be seen as an attempt to retain him.

We don't really know the context surrounding that 1 year deal - as fans, having more information would definitely help this discussion. If Stone only signed for one year in order to GTFO ASAP, then obviously you don't give him a letter. If the one year deal was because he wanted to see the team make a long-term commitment to him (in the form of having a solid plan going forward) before he made a long term commitment to them, and he's willing to stay if the team can show that they have their **** in order, and giving him the C gives you a good chance of signing him long term on Jan 1, then you absolutely give it to him.

Context matters. We just don't have enough of it sometimes.

 

[BonkTastic]

I'm betting he does the Dorion/Mac buyout scheme - show up to camp, fail your medical, leave 2 hours later, never speak to anyone.

That's not a buyout though.

That's LTIRetirement.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

This is a major issue with managment, they did it with Redden and made him an enemy after he refused to waive his no-trade, they did it cruelly to Heatley, Spezza of course and managed to somehow screw up the Alfie file. And now EK is the cross-hairs. If you're Mark Stone, why would take the Captainship of the team knowing that ownership and management is months away from throwing you under the bus no matter how well you perform or how much you've done for the team.

This lack of trust between management and players is reason #1 nobody wants to come or stay in Ottawa. Oduya said it best, Ottawa doesn't have the organizational maturity or organizational leadership to handle anything - and that includes star players especially.

This is jsut ridiculous.

The Sens were clearly not signing Redden, and tried to get something for him before he walked for nothing. He refused, which was his right. The team never made a villain out of him, but they were more than justified in saying that they were dissapointed in his decision,

Heatley was a villain. He did that, not the franchise. f*** Heatley. f*** him hard.

The fanbase made Spezza a villain, the franchise never did. Spezza told the team he wasn't signing when he contract expired, and said he'd be open to a trade, but he chose where he wanted to go. The team never slandered him. The fans are the ones who bitched about Spezza.

And Alfie . . . that was just a clusterf***. But I don't recall the team ever trying to slander him, just conflicting accounts of what happened.

 

[Sensung]

In the event that Karlsson is gone, giving Stone the C can be seen as an attempt to retain him.

We don't really know the context surrounding that 1 year deal - as fans, having more information would definitely help this discussion. If Stone only signed for one year in order to GTFO ASAP, then obviously you don't give him a letter. If the one year deal was because he wanted to see the team make a long-term commitment to him (in the form of having a solid plan going forward) before he made a long term commitment to them, and he's willing to stay if the team can show that they have their **** in order, and giving him the C gives you a good chance of signing him long term on Jan 1, then you absolutely give it to him.

Context matters. We just don't have enough of it sometimes.

Are you suggesting Warren has the information to provide the needed context or are you criticizing his taking a stance without that information?

 

[BonkTastic]

Are you suggesting Warren has the information to provide the needed context or are you criticizing his taking a stance without that information?

Neither.

I'm just making a broad point about context.

 

[Sensung]

Neither.

I'm just making a broad point about context.

Duly noted.

Do you think Stone's camp or the Sens have provided Warren with the needed context for the captaincy to be a reasonable suggestion?

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Duly noted.

Do you think Stone's camp or the Sens have provided Warren with the needed context for the captaincy to be a reasonable suggestion?

It hardly seems likely or even reasonable that anyone would need to say "Hey, just so you know, the captaincy may be a useful tool to convince a player they're a valued part of the team and make them more likely to stay!" It's kind of just inferred.

I get wanting to see the negative in everything these days, dude, but sometimes a pipe really is just a pipe.

 

[slamigo]

Duly noted.

Do you think Stone's camp or the Sens have provided Warren with the needed context for the captaincy to be a reasonable suggestion?

I really think you're tilting at windmills here. Sometimes there is no devious scheme behind an article. It's just copy because they have to produce copy.

 

[Sensung]

It hardly seems likely or even reasonable that anyone would need to say "Hey, just so you know, the captaincy may be a useful tool to convince a player they're a valued part of the team and make them more likely to stay!" It's kind of just inferred.

I get wanting to see the negative in everything these days, dude, but sometimes a pipe really is just a pipe.

And barring any inside info, sometimes signing a deal that leads to UFA status is really just exactly what it appears to be...a way to find the fastest route out of town

 

[Karl Prime]

I don't know why nobody in the media has been questioning why Dorion has been silent the past two months with the future of the franchise hanging in the balance (literally).

 

[Sensung]

I really think you're tilting at windmills here. Sometimes there is no devious scheme behind an article. It's just copy because they have to produce copy.

No accusations of any devious scheme.

Bonk had an issue with my statement based on what he feels is a lack of context.

I have an issue with Warren for making the Stone for captain pitch unless he has context that indicates Stone is committed to the Sens. His recent actions suggest that he likely isn't.