Proposal: Montreal--Islanders

[iggy]

To Islanders----Pickford and Hage

To Montreal----Barzal and 2026 1st----13th OA.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

lol what how does this make sense for the islanders?

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Seems like the Islanders are giving up more value on the surface.

 

[iggy]

lol what how does this make sense for the islanders?

Islanders are looking at getting younger. Hage and Barzal is even.
We need a young RH Dman and I feel Pickford is worth a 1st.
Both teams are better

 

[sansabri]

is barzal a true c or better suited on the wing?

 

[iggy]

is barzal a true c or better suited on the wing?

He plays on the wing for us because we are heavy on centers but when needed he is a center.

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

Pass. Those MTL pieces seem good but not interested in making the team less competitive with Schaefer around.

 

[iggy]

Pass. Those MTL pieces seem good but not interested in making the team less competitive with Schaefer around.

The Islanders are already non competitive rolling out the same old crap. Getting younger while getting 2 players we very much need.

 

[NYI365]

Pass.

I like those MTL prospects but I think we can do better tbh for Barzal and the 13th overall. I don't like the idea of trading Barzal for magic beans as good as they may turn out to be, plus giving MTL the 13th overall.

Dobson returned two firsts and an NHL body in Heineman. Barzal alone should return an NHL body+Prospect and maybe even a first or some collection of picks.

The 13th overall on top of that to MTL for two unproven prospects is too much value imo.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Isles already gave you a first #13 OA for Romanov..

Would you like him back

 

[iggy]

Pass.

I like those MTL prospects but I thinkr we can do bette tbh for Barzal and the 13th overall

Would love to know for who. A good young stud Center and good young RH Dman are not easy to come by.

 

[NYI365]

Would love to know for who. A good young stud Center and good young RH Dman are not easy to come by.

They may very well turn out that way, but let's pump the brakes just a little. They haven't played an NHL game yet. They're complete unknowns at the NHL level.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Why are Montreal going for 1st rounders? We need to be getting proven players if we are shipping out top prospects.

 

[iggy]

They may very well turn out that way, but let's pump the brakes just a little. They haven't played an NHL game yet. They're complete unknowns at the NHL level.

The 13th OA hasn't played an NHL game yet either. There is always a risk.

 

[NYI365]

The 13th OA hasn't played an NHL game yet either. There is always a risk.

But Mat Barzal has. That's the huge difference there.

Brock Nelson was traded for a 1st and Cal Ritchie, a solid prospect who played NHL games and looked solid and promising as a future long-term NHL center.

I assure you if Barzal is traded it will not just be a futures deal with complete unknowns, let alone throwing in the 13th OA for the hell of it.

 

[iggy]

Why are Montreal going for 1st rounders? We need to be getting proven players if we are shipping out top prospects.

Barzal is a proven player at 29 years old with 10 NHL seasons to his res

 

[iggy]

But Mat Barzal has. That's the huge difference there.

Brock Nelson was traded for a 1st and Cal Ritchie, a solid prospect who played NHL games and looked solid and promising as a future long-term NHL center.

I assure you if Barzal is traded it will not just be a futures deal with complete unknowns, let alone throwing in the 13th OA for the hell of it.

We are not anywhere close to a cup contender. Maybe not a complete rebuild but a major retool is necessary. Getting younger is the key.

 

[NYI365]

We are not anywhere close to a cup contender. Maybe not a complete rebuild but a major retool is necessary. Getting younger is the key.

I don't disagree at all and I pray Darche does a retool of some degree this summer. But that move as proposed would set this team back even further, I assure you of that.

There is value in Barzal+13th overall. A lot of value that could bring in something much more significant than two unknown prospects. That kind of package can land a Top 6F or Top 4D in the right deal.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Barzal is a proven player at 29 years old with 10 NHL seasons to his res

Yes I know who Barzal is but we won’t be targeting the 1st in a return unless it’s to flip elsewhere. If Isles are tearing it to down to get younger would rather have Pulock coming back instead of a 1st - obviously Habs add more

 

[iggy]

Yes I know who Barzal is but we won’t be targeting the 1st in a return unless it’s to flip elsewhere. If Isles are tearing it to down to get younger would rather have Pulock coming back instead of a 1st - obviously Habs add more

Done!!

 

[iggy]

I don't disagree at all and I pray Darche does a retool of some degree this summer. But that move as proposed would set this team back even further, I assure you of that.

There is value in Barzal+13th overall. A lot of value that could bring in something much more significant than two unknown prospects. That kind of package can land a Top 6F or Top 4D in the right deal.

Even though unknown but that is exactly the target. Please give an example of a better deal for Barzal and 13th.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

There's no way youre an Islanders fan

 

[NYI365]

Even though unknown but that is exactly the target. Please give an example of a better deal for Barzal and 13th.

If you're talking about a serious retool, you monitor the Matthews/Brady Tkachuk situations and offer Barzal+13th as a starting offer and go from there.

Not for magic beans.

 

[WangMustGo]

wow that is horrible.

 

[iggy]

wow that is horrible.

Vague.