Agreed. Value wise those two proposals are not even remotely similar. The first one actually is pretty decent IMO without taking team needs into consideration.
Proposal: Montreal - Florida
- Thread starter Mark Kandy
- Start date
Agreed. Value wise those two proposals are not even remotely similar. The first one actually is pretty decent IMO without taking team needs into consideration.
Mogo
Registered User
- Jun 26, 2002
- 25,869
- 11,979
lol they really don't know hockey in Florida, huh
Not even close to the OP's proposal, buddy
LOL yeah Juho Lammikko and Mikhail Sergachev are two comparable prospects!
And Andrighetto had 17 points in 44 games (0.39 PPG) playing 13 minutes a game and almost half the games on the 4th line... he is a better player than Logan Shaw, no doubt.
The OP was such an stupid offer to begin with. Makes zero sense for Florida. I suggest making "trade offers" that take into account the needs of the other team too.
Gentle Man
09/12
Yup. Beast
0 NHL games
For our best long-term winger..
It was a bad proposal. No need for picks.
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
If im the habs,, no way i pull that trigger. For one, top pairing Dmen are worth more than top 6 wingers. And yeah, hes just a prospect, but he looks really good and I would take that gamble any day of the week esp on one that the habs are adding a promising player (tho expendable) and a 1rst rounder. Yup no way, no deal.
The only way i see this deal happening is if the panthers regress heavily and are in the bottom of the league by the trade deadline and want to sell off Huberdeau (whos become, more or less, expendable with all the great young talent in the team). Then, Sergechev would be the best they can hope for, assuming the habs are in contention; the future top pairing mate for Ekblad (Sergechev can play Left and right side). The habs win for the very short term (2016-17 season , playoffs), and have a young player that can be part of the core and who has yet to reach his potential. In that sense its a win-win for both teams but pretty unlikely since the habs are really high on sergechev and have made him Subban's heir.
The only way i see this deal happening is if the panthers regress heavily and are in the bottom of the league by the trade deadline and want to sell off Huberdeau (whos become, more or less, expendable with all the great young talent in the team). Then, Sergechev would be the best they can hope for, assuming the habs are in contention; the future top pairing mate for Ekblad (Sergechev can play Left and right side). The habs win for the very short term (2016-17 season , playoffs), and have a young player that can be part of the core and who has yet to reach his potential. In that sense its a win-win for both teams but pretty unlikely since the habs are really high on sergechev and have made him Subban's heir.
Last edited:
CanadienShark
Registered User
- Dec 18, 2012
- 39,987
- 14,638
FLpanthers16
#CatsAreComing
- Jan 30, 2014
- 7,112
- 1,585
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
yeah both teams want to win this year esp the panthers after their break thru year last season and Huberdeau was a big reason. By trading him for a prospect, as good as he is, will only set the team back for some years.
CanadienShark
Registered User
- Dec 18, 2012
- 39,987
- 14,638
Agreed. He's a huge part of the Panthers offence. Similarly, I think that Andrighetto can do an admirable job in the top 6, while Sergachev will be so important for the Habs long term. The value is good, but doesn't satisfy needs well enough for either side.
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
yup, spot on except for ghetto. He wont crack the top 6 RW cuz of the habs depth up front. Radulov, Gallgher. I see him getting traded sooner than later.
CanadienShark
Registered User
- Dec 18, 2012
- 39,987
- 14,638
Ghetto can play any forward position. Obviously he's best suited to the wings. The best I've seen him play was actually on LW with Plekanec, IIRC.
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
True but I see Lehkonen as having the edge over ghetto for the second line LW.
CanadienShark
Registered User
- Dec 18, 2012
- 39,987
- 14,638
Maybe, but I think it's a wide open race. Hell, Carr might even take that spot. Or Shaw or Radulov.
AwesomePanthers
Stanley Cup Champions!!
- Aug 20, 2009
- 10,312
- 182
Uncle Gary
Registered User
- Apr 12, 2014
- 5,206
- 2,583
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
Well the habs have Juulsen, Beaulieu, Weber and Petry for many years to come. Thats pretty good to me. And they could still sign UFAs or trades. But at the same time, the habs are stacked with potential second liners (Shaw, Lehkonen, Reway, Carr, Hudon, Sherback, McCarron and so on) so yeah best to keep Sergechev who can become a true #1 D. Losing him would only leave us with one in Weber.
jacks*
Registered User
- Mar 29, 2013
- 11,311
- 4
MakeTheGoalsLarger
Registered User
this could maybe happen at trade deadline if the Habs have a very good season and the Panthers are out of the playoffs
viceroy
Registered User
Ermmm... IMHO Weber is now a very good #2. As is Markov. We no longer have a true top-flight #1.
- Nov 8, 2008
- 18,878
- 6,866
Like a majority of the trades being posted on this subforum, people take into account one teams wants/needs/goals for upcoming season and ignore the other teams w/n/g.
Trading off Huberdeau for picks and prospects does not help the Panthers this year. Doesn't matter if the value is close(don't know) but it doesn't take into the account that the Panthers want to make the playoffs again. Trading off their first line winger for players who are 1-3 years away hurts our chances, let alone trading him to a divisional rival(who is also fighting for the playoffs this year).
Trading off Huberdeau for picks and prospects does not help the Panthers this year. Doesn't matter if the value is close(don't know) but it doesn't take into the account that the Panthers want to make the playoffs again. Trading off their first line winger for players who are 1-3 years away hurts our chances, let alone trading him to a divisional rival(who is also fighting for the playoffs this year).
rhinoshawarma
Registered User
- Nov 15, 2014
- 2,622
- 314
Weber is a #1 D, whether you liked the trade or not.
We need our LD, we don't have anybody in the system who can replace Markov except for Sergachev. And Florida won't trade Huberdeau who is part of their core, they're trying to compete in the next 2 years not wait for a D prospect to develop.
LeafingTheWay
Registered User
- May 31, 2014
- 6,726
- 1,855
He isn't an elite #1D (He isn't a Hedman/Brodie/OEL/Doughty/Subban/etc).
Montreal's biggest need is D right now, and I agree with you this trade doesn't make sense for Montreal.
rhinoshawarma
Registered User
- Nov 15, 2014
- 2,622
- 314
I disagree I think Weber is still an elite 1D, don't know how the assistant captain of team canada isnt elite. And one of those doesn't belong in that list but don't want to get into that.
And its not our biggest need at all, we got 2 forwards this summer for a reason... we need to score.
jacks*
Registered User
- Mar 29, 2013
- 11,311
- 4
Funny how he was considered an elite D before he got traded to the Habs but now he isn't.
Never change.
LeafingTheWay
Registered User
- May 31, 2014
- 6,726
- 1,855
Funny how he was considered an elite D before he got traded to the Habs but now he isn't.
Never change.
No he wasn't, what the. You do realize that there are minority groups on HF like me that don't think Weber's elite right
You're just seeing this minority group now because he's involved with your team.Being assistant captain of team canada has nothing to do with it. He's a great leader.
He shouldn't have made the team but that's off the point.
You guys need to score based off of past seasons, I agree. But you just traded your best transitional D. You have no one on your team able to transition the puck up effectively on the top pairing anymore, and that's the most important part in today's game.
Legend123
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2016
- 9,919
- 5,107
No he wasn't, what the. You do realize that there are minority groups on HF like me that don't think Weber's elite right
Being assistant captain of team canada has nothing to do with it. He's a great leader.
He shouldn't have made the team but that's off the point.
You guys need to score based off of past seasons, I agree. But you just traded your best transitional D. You have no one on your team able to transition the puck up effectively on the top pairing anymore, and that's the most important part in today's game.
he deserves to be on the team for his PP and D abilities. And its funny how Weber was always considered an elite D up until he gets traded to Montreal. Lmao, logic... I can assure u all NHL GMs value him as such. ANd Gms are far more qualified than you guys are, esp these HF posters.
