GDT: MONTREAL AHO-LESS @ CAROLINA AHO-FUL

RodTheBawd

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Don't know what y'all were watching, but the ice was shit (understandably). There were handful of occasions where the puck randomly jumped up while moving across the ice. Combined with first game rust, it was a mess.
Fleury looked like shit.
Svech is an absolute stud. Rare to see someone so strong on the puck with that skill.
Dzingel was meh. He's supposed to be fast, right? Maybe something still lingering?
Gardiner makes me nervous in his own end.
I love Petr.
Aho and TT are a f***ing treat to watch. TTs backdoor pass to Haula that he couldn't finish was nasty.

Felt very much like a continuation of last year, just a little sloppy.
 

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The most exciting thing about Necas is that he seems to have gotten enough of a handle on his speed that he can truly utilize it as the weapon it is. He knew when it was time to stop on a dime and cut into the open ice, or when it was time to pull a stop and start change of pace isolation move on a defender to blow right by them.

There is one thing...he still does have some issue with cleanly handling passes. It probably was a bit of nerves combined with a kid finding his confidence. It happened less later in the game, but it pretty much happened throughout.

Dzingle gets in the right places, just needs a little adjustment on his shot.

Again, I think that McGinn was in the top-6 so that Dzingel could adjust to the team and his injuries.

My sense is he was a shade rusty. I'm not sure the ankle was the issue but he did miss those final games of pre-season.

some defensive goofs by Foegele, he needs to get back to a basic game.

I noticed it a bit in pre-season and it was certainly evident last night. He's flat out trying to do too much. He's a guy whose game is predicated on energy and speed. He just needs to keep it simple. I don't believe the Warren Foegele we saw last night is the Warren Foegele we'll see going forward. The guy also had to be a bit flustered by all the talk about Necas and Gauthier....the next few games will tell a lot.

I thought he looked solid through the first 2.

Yeah, I paid particular attention to Fleury last night. He was very solid. I saw one ill-advised pinch, but he made a number of other good plays and didn't seem to be as nervous with the puck on his stick. He needs more minutes to prove to Rod that he's capable in all situations. Until Rod gives those to him, he's going to lack confidence. His younger brother, in his NHL debut, logged 2 more minutes of ice time.
 

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While we bicker about the lines and our defensive growing pains, keep in mind that they still pummeled the net with shots and suppressed the other side down to less shots. In that sense, they're still doing what they've always done.
And unlike early last year, it wasnt a bunch of weak-ass garbage dump shots, we had a lot of high-quality chances and dangerous opportunities, we just got beat by the post and a great goalie a lot
 

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Couple of other thought on last night:

As others have said, it was a bit of a sloppy affair....but I think it was less the ice and more the 1st game jitters and heightened expectations of the season. Nobody can tell me the players don't feel the pressure of continuing to be a bit of a "predictions darling".

The sloppiness seemed to mostly manifest itself in our passing. Several times we tried to push he puck up ice on the outside. Montreal effectively pinned a bunch of those 1st period passes against the boards.

In the 2nd period there seemed to be some confusion around "assignments" - as in whose man is/was this and/or whose zone is this to cover. I remember 2 distinct times watching our guys either stand still or even pull back a shade, seemingly waiting for somebody else to match up. I think this is part of the learning curve of playing together. It felt less like it was a failing of our defensemen, who seemed to have a solid game, and more confusion in our overall defensive game - the forwards and defensemen didn't always seem to be on the same page when they were in our zone.
 

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There is one thing...he still does have some issue with cleanly handling passes. It probably was a bit of nerves combined with a kid finding his confidence. It happened less later in the game, but it pretty much happened throughout.





My sense is he was a shade rusty. I'm not sure the ankle was the issue but he did miss those final games of pre-season.



I noticed it a bit in pre-season and it was certainly evident last night. He's flat out trying to do too much. He's a guy whose game is predicated on energy and speed. He just needs to keep it simple. I don't believe the Warren Foegele we saw last night is the Warren Foegele we'll see going forward. The guy also had to be a bit flustered by all the talk about Necas and Gauthier....the next few games will tell a lot.



Yeah, I paid particular attention to Fleury last night. He was very solid. I saw one ill-advised pinch, but he made a number of other good plays and didn't seem to be as nervous with the puck on his stick. He needs more minutes to prove to Rod that he's capable in all situations. Until Rod gives those to him, he's going to lack confidence. His younger brother, in his NHL debut, logged 2 more minutes of ice time.

His younger brother's team, OTOH, is way less deep in their back end. Remember how they wanted Gardiner and offered a higher AAV? Being that we're the deepest defense in hockey RN, any new guy on our team that hasn't played multiple years in the league is getting heavily sheltered no matter what, at least initially.
 

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I have to say Price is inhuman when he's on. This game could have very quickly turned into a blowout in our favor but Price almost single handedly kept Montreal in the game. There were a few saves where all I could say was "Aww come on that's just not fair." He's very cool to watch.

The Canes speed comes in waves and it doesn't stop. They make it look effortless how quickly they can move the puck up the ice. Once they gel they are going to dog walk a lot of teams this year and make a lot of predictions look very good. If we could get an elite LW, the game would be over for these hoes.
 

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The sloppiness seemed to mostly manifest itself in our passing. Several times we tried to push he puck up ice on the outside. Montreal effectively pinned a bunch of those 1st period passes against the boards.

It was interesting to see this play out. We had a few shifts where puck movement around the boards had the Habs just chasing and chasing while we rotated the puck. And other shifts where they cut it off cleanly and were out of the zone in a flash. There was some cat-and-mouse going on with those passes around the boards and up to the halfwall.
 

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It was interesting to see this play out. We had a few shifts where puck movement around the boards had the Habs just chasing and chasing while we rotated the puck. And other shifts where they cut it off cleanly and were out of the zone in a flash. There was some cat-and-mouse going on with those passes around the boards and up to the halfwall.
Yeah, our passing in their zone seemed to be consistently better almost all night than our passing in our zone. We kept trying similar types of passes where either the game plan saw something or individual players saw something, yet the Habs seemed to quickly snuff it out. Then we started more indirect, off the board passes and, interestingly, more center of the ice passes, and we seemed more effective.

Gardiner, in particular, had a few beautiful passes off of the boards that hit the recipient right in stride. Dude is going to be so good for this team.
 
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Gardiner, in particular, had a few beautiful passes off of the boards that hit the recipient right in stride. Dude is going to be so good for this team.

Yep, this is a good zone exit team but Gardiner’s on another level. Just rifling them back there.

He was less mobile than I pictured him being but honestly I don’t really care if he’s firing like that. I WOULD pair him with Pesce though instead of an off-hand side Fleury.
 

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I have to say Price is inhuman when he's on. This game could have very quickly turned into a blowout in our favor but Price almost single handedly kept Montreal in the game. There were a few saves where all I could say was "Aww come on that's just not fair." He's very cool to watch.

The Canes speed comes in waves and it doesn't stop. They make it look effortless how quickly they can move the puck up the ice. Once they gel they are going to dog walk a lot of teams this year and make a lot of predictions look very good. If we could get an elite LW, the game would be over for these hoes.

The speed of this team was the most impressive part to me last night. I dare say we should be able to match any teams speed this season, even the Lightning.
 
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Gardiner from my view looked to maybe be taking it easy last night considering his skating looked off. He might still be nursing something(i think it was his knee) and just was being careful. That would also make sense as to why edmundson started on the 2nd pairing. Also edmundson was a pleasant surprise in that his defensive game was as advertised and was very solid, but he doesn't look totally useless when playing offense either.
 

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Gardiner from my view looked to maybe be taking it easy last night considering his skating looked off. He might still be nursing something(i think it was his knee) and just was being careful. That would also make sense as to why edmundson started on the 2nd pairing. Also edmundson was a pleasant surprise in that his defensive game was as advertised and was very solid, but he doesn't look totally useless when playing offense either.
I believe it was a hip....
 

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Girl on NHL Network just suggested that one of the Storm Surges this year should be a player coming out and cracking open a couple Storm Brews like Stone Cold Steve Austin

Might be the best idea I've heard.
Paging Mr. Brad Pesce, paging Mr. Brad Pesce. He’s probably slammed so many beers in anticipation of his shining moment
 

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