Value of: Montreal 2 1st rounder for a top 10 pick 2025

[Nicko999]

Now that we are confirmed into pick #16 and 17, just wondering if these would be enough to move up to 9th or 10th?

Would a team picking around 10th (Anaheim, Buffalo?) be interested in a 2 for 1 swap. It would make sense if they are not super high on a player.

Unlike my fellow Habs fans, I do not want to trade those picks for players but rather use them to move up.

 

[Djp]

Now that we are confirmed into pick #16 and 17, just wondering if these would be enough to move up to 9th or 10th?

Would a team picking around 10th (Anaheim, Buffalo?) be interested in a 2 for 1 swap. It would make sense if they are not super high on a player.

Unlike my fellow Habs fans, I do not want to trade those picks for players but rather use them to move up.

Buffalo isn't collecting 1sts

Based on Promsn analysis it appears there is a drop after 9.

 

[Canadienna]

It would take a GM at 9 or 10 to really not like their options, and feel they can get their guy and another guy 16/17. Montreal would obviously also have to feel the opposite.

So it's hard to predict beforehand and seems unlikely.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Depends who’s there, although I’d prefer to use those picks on more immediate help.

 

[Gabrielor]

Buffalo will decline.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I could kinda see Pittsburgh doing it. Not a huge difference in quality between 11 and 16/17 but maybe they want more kicks at the can where they're just beginning to build their prospect pool.

Boston at 7 is a long shot. Montreal would need to add something significant.

 

[jfhabs]

I don't see the point. 16+17 is more valuable than 7-8-9-10 alone.

 

[miscs75]

In all seriousness, didn’t a Habs fan post this exact thread recently?

*2nd page with Laine included.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I keep both the 16 and 17th picks rather than trading up (to 10). In this draft, two shots at the dartboard are better than one shot at closer range.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Now that we are confirmed into pick #16 and 17, just wondering if these would be enough to move up to 9th or 10th?

Would a team picking around 10th (Anaheim, Buffalo?) be interested in a 2 for 1 swap. It would make sense if they are not super high on a player.

Unlike my fellow Habs fans, I do not want to trade those picks for players but rather use them to move up.

From Anaheim perspective prob not

We need to take quality over quantity… at 10 there is a chance at a high end fall player being there for us(like McQueen) At 16/17 we don’t have that chance

If we were to trade the pick it would be for established help not more picks

 

[BLNY]

Now that we are confirmed into pick #16 and 17, just wondering if these would be enough to move up to 9th or 10th?

Would a team picking around 10th (Anaheim, Buffalo?) be interested in a 2 for 1 swap. It would make sense if they are not super high on a player.

Unlike my fellow Habs fans, I do not want to trade those picks for players but rather use them to move up.

• Who's available at 10 when that pick comes up?
• Is there a big enough talent gap between 10 and 16 to make it worth trying to move up?
• If there is, how willing to move down would that team be?
• How soon would any player taken between 10-17 in 2025 make the club?

The last question is why some are more interested in trading those pick(s) for someone that fits the group. I'm in neither camp, but I see the merit in a move that brings in a player that helps now and for the long term.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

• Who's available at 10 when that pick comes up?
• Is there a big enough talent gap between 10 and 16 to make it worth trying to move up?
• If there is, how willing to move down would that team be?
• How soon would any player taken between 10-17 in 2025 make the club?

The last question is why some are more interested in trading those pick(s) for someone that fits the group. I'm in neither camp, but I see the merit in a move that brings in a player that helps now and for the long term.

Looking at Bob McKenzie's rankings, 10 is Jackson Smith. 16 is Lakovic. Lakovic + whoever is at 17 is far more enticing than Jackson Smith!!

If you can't get into the top-6, then there is no point in trading the 2 x 1sts.

 

[Nicko999]

• Who's available at 10 when that pick comes up?
• Is there a big enough talent gap between 10 and 16 to make it worth trying to move up?
• If there is, how willing to move down would that team be?
• How soon would any player taken between 10-17 in 2025 make the club?

The last question is why some are more interested in trading those pick(s) for someone that fits the group. I'm in neither camp, but I see the merit in a move that brings in a player that helps now and for the long term.

I have PTSD from Dach and Newhook.
It's one thing Hughes has failed at.

 

[ole ole]

Looking at Bob McKenzie's rankings, 10 is Jackson Smith. 16 is Lakovic. Lakovic + whoever is at 17 is far more enticing than Jackson Smith!!

If you can't get into the top-6, then there is no point in trading the 2 x 1sts.

I would trade both picks and add if Desnoyers is around. How about it Boston?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would trade both picks and add if Desnoyers is around. How about it Boston?

I find Desnoyer to lack any sort of dynamic element to his game. He's kind of like a Danault type of player.

 

[lawrence]

Now that we are confirmed into pick #16 and 17, just wondering if these would be enough to move up to 9th or 10th?

north worth it bro. 9th pick to like the 22nd pick is like one long tier. the 20th guy is probably as good as the 9th guy. Its one cluster tier. might as well just hang onto to the pick.

 

[Mrb1p]

Unless we secure Desnoyer, we need to trade those picks for actual players.

 

[MoneyManny]

If we have a clear target sure but otherwise i don't see the point of moving up for the sake of moving up.

 

[stevo61]

Looking at Bob McKenzie's rankings, 10 is Jackson Smith. 16 is Lakovic. Lakovic + whoever is at 17 is far more enticing than Jackson Smith!!

If you can't get into the top-6, then there is no point in trading the 2 x 1sts.

Lakovic would be a great pick for a team with 2 picks like Montreal but otherwise he's one of those guys I'd be a bit nervous taking

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Isnt this draft weak after the top 5 ? if so i rather keep the two mid picks and trade them for young talent

 

[JRichard]

Isnt this draft weak after the top 5 ? if so i rather keep the two mid picks and trade them for young talent

But if draft is weak after 5, who will give young talent for 16 and 17?

IMO draft is the opposite: sure top 5 is weaker than usual.

Late 1st early 2nd has many dmen i would like my team to get: Boumedienne, Fiddler, Amico, Wang or Limatov.

A few centers as well: Murtagh, Nesbitt, Cootes.

 

[jfhabs]

Isnt this draft weak after the top 5 ? if so i rather keep the two mid picks and trade them for young talent

Hard to tell if it's weak, but there's not a definite gap from 7 to the late teens, you are getting a good not great prospect IMO.

 

[Djp]

• Who's available at 10 when that pick comes up?
• Is there a big enough talent gap between 10 and 16 to make it worth trying to move up?

Prommer has 3 groups covering up to 9
next group is 10-18
next group is 19-mid 30s

• If there is, how willing to move down would that team be?
• How soon would any player taken between 10-17 in 2025 make the club?

Some teams dtarting rebuilds likr pittsburghmight do a tradr down of their 1st+ snother pick for 16 and 17. This assumes their picks in 26 and 27 are top 10.

The last question is why some are more interested in trading those pick(s) for someone that fits the group. I'm in neither camp, but I see the merit in a move that brings in a player that helps now and for the long term.

Another thought....

Say the Rangers trade down does that make their pick something they can give upas part of the trade they made for Miller that pittsburgh now owns? The pick i think was top 13 protectef...thud it can revert to a 26 pick.

If they trade down to 20 and get a 2nd then they could give that pick up.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't think Montreal would have to offer that much to move up. I think they could probably move up to #11 with the Penguins by offering #16 and #41.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Depends who’s there, although I’d prefer to use those picks on more immediate help.

Or just use the picks where they are. I'm not sure the draft will break in a way where a prospect will be available in a trade for 16-17 that makes more sense than just using the picks.