WWE: Monday Night Raw part 175: Top Injury Prone Guys

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GarbageGoal

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Yeah not sure how you don't like The Miz, then throw out a "too kayfabe" when Miz reminds me of a more old school style heel wrestler. I like him and his gimmick.

Because people think he was pipe bombing Cena and Reigns or something. Meanwhile Joe's focus was the match at hand. "I'm going to destroy you two in this match because I am better than you" which is a more kayfabe promo for focusing ON THE MATCH.
 

SeidoN

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Because people think he was pipe bombing Cena and Reigns or something. Meanwhile Joe's focus was the match at hand. "I'm going to destroy you two in this match because I am better than you" which is a more kayfabe promo for focusing ON THE MATCH.

the match wasnt even made when Miz cut his promo :laugh::laugh:
 

GKJ

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I hope Alexa wins her title back against Sasha but it's not going to happen. Let the Sasha/Bayley build begin in 2 weeks.

I can see it going like it did last year where they're trading the title back and forth, especially with Bayley out, since there is not much else they can do with it.
 

garnetpalmetto

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Was Cena traded to raw? Sure feels like once again Smackdown is getting screwed

The gimmick for him now is that he's a free agent, so he can go wherever he wants to. Angle asked him at SummerSlam to move over to Raw and he obliged.

And that definitely sucks for Cass. At first I thought it was a work until I saw the replay. I was interested to see where Cass would go storyline wise once he was done with Enzo - looks like we might have to wait a few months for that.

I can see it going like it did last year where they're trading the title back and forth, especially with Bayley out, since there is not much else they can do with it.

I still think they'll try to work Nia into that championship picture more, especially with a dearth of talent they're willing to use with any regularity. I think the only women on Raw the writers are giving any regular thought to are Alexa, Sasha, Nia, and (to an extent) Bayley. Emma's getting firmly buried, they don't know how to program Dana (and honestly she's one I wouldn't mind seeing go back to NXT for a bit), and Alicia and Mickie are essentially part-timers, given how sparingly they're used.
 
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GKJ

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Alexa and Nia is something they want to do, but then you have to turn Alexa, which is definitely not a good idea. And I maintain that Four Horsewomen vs. Four Horsewomen needs one of them as a champion.
 

PeterSidorkiewicz

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Ok, angle obviously leading to a match.

You must have been as shocked as Michael Cole then.

It still doesn't answer the question of how The Miz is supposed to focus on the match when there isn't a match yet.

It's cool if you don't like The Miz everyone has guys they like and dislike, the kayfabe thing still makes zero sense to me. Miz is like the epitomy of kayfabe, or what's left of it anyway.
 

garnetpalmetto

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Alexa and Nia is something they want to do, but then you have to turn Alexa, which is definitely not a good idea. And I maintain that Four Horsewomen vs. Four Horsewomen needs one of them as a champion.

I don't know - based on how they've written them so far it seems like it'd be Nia who'd have to turn face (or at least be less of a heel) in that match-up since she's the one who's clearly being used by Alexa (and thus more likely to garner sympathy).
 

GKJ

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I don't know - based on how they've written them so far it seems like it'd be Nia who'd have to turn face (or at least be less of a heel) in that match-up since she's the one who's clearly being used by Alexa (and thus more likely to garner sympathy).

I don't know, Nia as a face, who is she fighting then? Alexa also kind of need the title or be fighting for it to stay relevant unless they get some other good workers moved up.
 

Emperoreddy

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I can see it going like it did last year where they're trading the title back and forth, especially with Bayley out, since there is not much else they can do with it.

That would be terrible. Sasha needs to be able to defend her damn belt for once. It makes her look terrible.

Enough of Bliss
 

garnetpalmetto

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I don't know, Nia as a face, who is she fighting then? Alexa also kind of need the title or be fighting for it to stay relevant unless they get some other good workers moved up.

I'm not advocating for a total face turn but like in the AoP vs. Sanity feud on NXT, you just need to make Nia look less heelish and more sympathetic.
 

Deen

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If Nia stopped doing shifty eyes and just smiled on her way to the ring, she would basically be a face anyways.
 

dahrougem2

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That would be terrible. Sasha needs to be able to defend her damn belt for once. It makes her look terrible.

Enough of Bliss
Never enough of Bliss.
If Nia stopped doing shifty eyes and just smiled on her way to the ring, she would basically be a face anyways.

She can hardly contain her smile already. She's not a very fear-enducing monster heel.
 

M.C.G. 31

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summer downtime is almost up. I wonder how many people here, myself included, are going to be tuning out again or changing their viewing habits if it didn't change over the summer (viewership numbers were up and these threads seemed more active during the shows compared to before the summer).

The only thing really interesting me on Raw at the moment is Strowman, Rollins and Ambrose.
 

GKJ

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Cena/Roman and Lesnar/Strowman are some big feud and angles that are in the works, obviously. Last year at this time, Owens won the title, Seth turned face, and we had the emergence of the List of Jericho. The year the before that they brought back Sting, the Undertaker was floating around and Roman was poised to take the title off Seth, who got hurt, as did Sting.
 

ColePens

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They still should put Finn in an IC Title feud and have him team up to th the Good Brothers to form Balor Club

I'd still kill for a Balor Club takeover that absolutely dominates until one group of 3 takes them down - The Shield. Mark out city. But I think Vince hates that stuff even though I absolutely love it.
 

M.C.G. 31

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I'd still kill for a Balor Club takeover that absolutely dominates until one group of 3 takes them down - The Shield. Mark out city. But I think Vince hates that stuff even though I absolutely love it.

Vince wouldn't hate it if someone with power got it in his ear that it's the very last possibility of Roman ever getting over with the fans the way he wants.

I love Roman, but the fan reaction towards him is largely irreparable... the only thing that can save it is a Shield reunion.
 

SeidoN

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Vince wouldn't hate it if someone with power got it in his ear that it's the very last possibility of Roman ever getting over with the fans the way he wants.

I love Roman, but the fan reaction towards him is largely irreparable... the only thing that can save it is a Shield reunion.

Vince ALREADY knows that Roman can only get over in the Shield and that changes nothing

its quite funny that theres a guy on the roster who gets mercilessly booed, but one simple change would prompt an immediate huge pop
 

ColePens

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Watching some NCIS prior to Raw. They already made Cena/Roman official. All for one call out? Feels weird and rushed.
 
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