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M.C.G. 31

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Mandible Claw again? Come on, it's such a ridiculous move. Why doesn't the other guy just bite?
Clamp down on your lower jaw while using two fingers to essentially push your tongue down the back of your throat and see if you’d have enough control or power to just “bite.”
 
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Not a huge fan of the extended segments with the Fiend, the sound does lose its effect after a minute or so, but the camerawork is fantastic and Bray is coming off like an insatiable murderer. I also think he should be yelling HURT HURT HURT from under the mask as well.

Still, love this stuff, bro!
 
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Lol Rollins looks like such a little ***** being scared of Bray that much.

At least Strowman got back to his knees and looked to want to continue fighting until he ate a second mandible claw.

Rollins looks like an utter buffoon.
 

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Mandible Claw again? Come on, it's such a ridiculous move. Why doesn't the other guy just bite?
I think in kayfabe, Wyatt is putting too much force down to bite.

Honestly, most WWE moves have easy counters so it's just best not to think about things like they were real.
 
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Clamp down on your lower jaw while using two fingers to essentially push your tongue down the back of your throat and see if you’d have enough control or power to just “bite.”

Yeah the mandible claw is actually a legit move in regards to biting not being a counter to it.
 

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The mandible claw is meant to be vicious. A simple Sister Abigail would lose its effect imo. The claw is used to look super sinister and almost seem like he’s sucking the life out of his opponent.
 

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It's one thing to keep it simple and paced with Bray, but goodness be a little creative. The same thing over and over. He has so much depth to that character. Let him do things. Let him be creative and deep.
 
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It's one thing to keep it simple and paced with Bray, but goodness be a little creative. The same thing over and over. He has so much depth to that character. Let him do things. Let him be creative and deep.
I do agree. It would be nice to see that match play out, and for the lights to go out and you see the Fiend in the rafters somewhere similar to Sting. I think it would be a cool way to go off the air...
 
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Getting put over Strowman like that, that’s as strong as it gets.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Seth is absolutely destroyed as a babyface cowering in fear. I get it puts over The Fiend, but holy shit. I think I would have had Seth go for a curb stomp from behind when Fiend hit a second mandible claw on Strowman.

this is just too much cowering. At least that would have put Fiend over still in that the heroic babyface, Seth Rollins can only attack him from behind.

Theoretically someone the size of Braun should be able to reverse it into an armbar.
Anyone can counter anything theoretically. Fiend will probably do it to Rey next week and we can say, “well, theoretically, Rey is small enough that he can wrap around the arm of Wyatt and roll through into a modified ‘rana, or a triangle choke.” Who cares? The mandible claw is a legit move. You’re trying to make the other person swallow their own tongue essentially while clamping down on the lower jaw.
 

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I do agree. It would be nice to see that match play out, and for the lights to go out and you see the Fiend in the rafters somewhere similar to Sting. I think it would be a cool way to go off the air...

I think it's a 10/10 character and perfect so far, but goodness. They are even losing the Firefly Fun House. Let him be more subtle. Let him walk around and then hold the heal hand up and go crazy to the back. Let the psychopath side out. I don't care if he grabs a plant fan and tortures him for fun. I don't care if he just stares a hole through Rollins. Anything.

The same thing week in/week out is dumb. And in the FFH - be more subtle! Let him be subtle like he started.
 

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It's one thing to keep it simple and paced with Bray, but goodness be a little creative. The same thing over and over. He has so much depth to that character. Let him do things. Let him be creative and deep.
Now that he’s in the main event feud, Vince has his hands on this. All those complex layers you’re wanting to see, Vince thinks you (we) are too dumb and simple care about.
 

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I do agree. It would be nice to see that match play out, and for the lights to go out and you see the Fiend in the rafters somewhere similar to Sting. I think it would be a cool way to go off the air...
They couldn't let the match play out. One is the Universal Champ and the other couldn't take another loss without being buried.
 

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Earlier when Wyatt was talking about friends abandoning him I was curious if he was referring to Strowman.

Was really hoping they'd tie it together.

-Strowman ready to end Rollins
- lights go out all at once
- lights come on and at the bottom of the ramp is Wyatt's old rocking chair (rocking on its own) with the black sheep mask hanging from it.
- light go out in stages
- lights come on and the Fiend hit mandible claw
- after he picks up strowman for sister Abigail he acts conflicted drops strowman and continues to go crazy listening.
- finally the fiend goes in for another mandible claw.
- strowman out on the mat, the fiend goes crazy again and using the heal glove he runs his hands over strowman eyes closing his lids
-he then puts the sheep mask over strowman face
 

M.C.G. 31

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Firefly Funhouse was way too on the nose tonight. Easily the weakest version of the segment ever.

I’m curious to see how they handle The Fiend when he’s champion.
 

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Other than burying Rollins a million feet underground as a babyface cowering in fear that was great.
It took down Strowman, who is protected more than just about anyone, including Seth, so it should scare the shit out of him.

Probably also means that if Wyatt beats Seth, Strowman will then feud with him.
 
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