WWE: Monday Night Raw 141 - "Guys like you bury guys like me!"

[Cor]

Way too soon to call up Balor. You gotta let the Club gain some momentum first.

Too Soon?

Balor could have came into the WWE as soon as he signed. He was in NXT to grow the brand to what it is today.

The Club just significantly supplanted themselves. AJ is more than likely going to win the MITB match (Cena typically loses the first one) and the Club very well could be the ones who win the Tag Titles at MITB as well - depending on if they want to keep the titles within the rivalry between The Club and Cena Day, Enzo/Cass very well could win if they don't - so I'm not sure how much more momentum is needed.

In Fact, bringing in Balor and making them even stronger will only continue the momentum.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Balor up would sow the seeds for a Finn/AJ feud.

 

[vdB]

And now we're already booking a aj/Finn feud

Slow it down folks.

But I like the idea of the club getting the titles. Emperor is right- that win and aj winning (preferably clean) is enough momentum for me

 

[M.C.G. 31]

My favourite moment from last night: https://streamable.com/lbgm

 

[xtra]

If I could plan out the feuds for a day it would roll like this:

Club beats New Day at MITB for the tag titles, Cena beats AJ

Rematches at Battle Ground where New day loses their rematch. and AJ beats Cena via club interference.

The next night The Club comes out and brags how they beat Cena and hold the belts. They are the most dominant faction in the WWE.....lights go out, all 4 Wyatt family members show up. Bray turns face and goes your in my world and we are just letting you be....

Sets up a 4 on 3 Wyatt vs Club feud. Match is set up as handicap match for Summerslam. Match ends with Finn debut and win via interference for the Club.

Stretch this feud out until Survivor Series with them trading wins until The club loses at Survivor series casue of AJ/ Finn issues. Sets up a turn at Royal Rumble which can lead to an AJ/ Finn wrestlemania moment. Personally I would save the Demon until Wrestlemania but I doubt the wwe has it in them to do so.


Mean while Set it up so after summerslam that Bray can feud with the Authority going to Royal Rumble and by then you have a guy who can legit win the Rumble and take down the Authority. Sets them up for Bray vs. whomever is holding the belt which in my mind should be Brock.

New Face of fear vs. the beast incarnate

 

[S A W F T*]

Harper won't be back by Summerslam.

 

[xtra]

Harper won't be back by Summerslam.

well that's a swift kick in the nuts to my idea

 

[SeidoN]

My favourite moment from last night: https://streamable.com/lbgm

I could watch this over and over

 

[Dr Pepper]

My favourite moment from last night: https://streamable.com/lbgm

Cesaro and Y2J killing it.

 

[Hackett]

Is it just me, or is Breezango basically just a ripoff of MNM without Melina?

There's also a helping of Billy and Chuck in the mix.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That sounds like fun actually...as long as bringing up Balor doesn't put AJ in the background. I love his work.

I see no reason why the Club couldn't be a modern version of the Four Horsemen. The top two guys are obviously ridiculously talented and can win singles belts and their tag team can win those belts. Either AJ or Finn could win the WWE title and the other one can win the secondary title on the show they end up on. And I don't see any reason to break that foursome up for at least two years after introduction.

 

[GKJ]

My favourite moment from last night: https://streamable.com/lbgm

That actually was a good segment.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

My favourite moment from last night: https://streamable.com/lbgm

Man I wish they gave Cesaro more time on the mic. He's been absolutely killing it since he came back

 

[vdB]

I see no reason why the Club couldn't be a modern version of the Four Horsemen. The top two guys are obviously ridiculously talented and can win singles belts and their tag team can win those belts. Either AJ or Finn could win the WWE title and the other one can win the secondary title on the show they end up on. And I don't see any reason to break that foursome up for at least two years after introduction.

The new 4 horseman...Bold claim bro.

But I like you're thinking. We need more of these bold predictions on hf. Lets see how it plays out

 

[Brodeur]

Probably not an original thought/question, but is it possible for The (Bullet) Club to run roughshod on both shows or would it be too awkward/overkill? AJ on one, Finn on the other. Maybe keep Anderson/Gallows with AJ and introduce somebody else to apprentice with Finn?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Probably not an original thought/question, but is it possible for The (Bullet) Club to run roughshod on both shows or would it be too awkward/overkill? AJ on one, Finn on the other. Maybe keep Anderson/Gallows with AJ and introduce somebody else to apprentice with Finn?

It would be awkward if they ran with two factions that were affiliated but on separate shows. However, it would be an interesting dynamic if you had Shane and Steph run each of the shows but Vince gave the Club carte blanche and go wherever...but then I would want to advocate a larger group than what they have historically been comfortable with. Something more like a six or seven person stable.

 

[vdB]

The Red Club on Raw, and the Blue Club on smackdown.

 

[GKJ]

Probably not an original thought/question, but is it possible for The (Bullet) Club to run roughshod on both shows or would it be too awkward/overkill? AJ on one, Finn on the other. Maybe keep Anderson/Gallows with AJ and introduce somebody else to apprentice with Finn?

Maybe if after they had a run together, but I don't think it's a bad idea. They had a lot of folks rolling with them in Japan.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Probably not an original thought/question, but is it possible for The (Bullet) Club to run roughshod on both shows or would it be too awkward/overkill? AJ on one, Finn on the other. Maybe keep Anderson/Gallows with AJ and introduce somebody else to apprentice with Finn?

I feel like they would need some overlap in members to make that work. Some guys would need to work both shows.

I think ideally you just run a 4 man stable and when AJ inevitably loses his feud to Cena you have Finn and company kick him out to turn AJ face again.

AJ is a great heel. He showed it in Japan and last night but his best value I still think is him as a face.

Finn needs a long heel run IMO after such a long ass run as the face of NXT. Plus he is a damn good heel too. His problem (which a lot of people have trouble with) is he can't give solid face promos.

 

[GKJ]

That's too much turning going on with AJ. He's turned heel in a rather dramatic way. He's not turning back face for a long time. Only reason to turn him back face is if Cena gets hurt again/goes to part-time, or they pull the plug on Roman Reigns as the #1 face, since no one except Cena is allowed to be more over.

 

[Balance]

IMO AJ is a better heel on the mic than Seth Rollins

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That's too much turning going on with AJ. He's turned heel in a rather dramatic way. He's not turning back face for a long time. Only reason to turn him back face is if Cena gets hurt again/goes to part-time, or they pull the plug on Roman Reigns as the #1 face, since no one except Cena is allowed to be more over.

They have too many options to push as a top face if they want to drop Reigns. You can even with Rollins established as a heel right now turn him and Reigns at the MitB show. Hell, Reigns can be a guy that joins and co-leads the Club if you wanted to bring them into it. I know people will dislike that idea just because of the it factor that the Club has but Reigns has shown he can be in those types of setups and do his part to elevate it w/o overshadowing it. That would allow him to be more protected and in an interesting story. It also opens up the opportunity to bring Finn in as a babyface against the Club.

I love factions and the potential within them. I just wish Vince had a better idea of how to utilize them. So many stories and a lot less dead spots in your programming if you use them right.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Hour 1 - 3.371m
Hour 2 - 3.490m
Hour 3 - 2.903m

Brutal drop.

 

[GKJ]

Hour 1 - 3.371m
Hour 2 - 3.490m
Hour 3 - 2.903m

Brutal drop.

So everyone was watching Seth's tape, but not Roman's. And they didn't come back for Bullet Club vs. New Day

 

[M.C.G. 31]

So everyone was watching Seth's tape, but not Roman's. And they didn't come back for Bullet Club vs. New Day

They may have, we won't know unless the overrun number and breakdown comes out though.

There was a lot of crap in the third hour that could have turned people off in droves.