OT: MN High School Hockey Thread

joelef

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Also Burnsville co opted with apple valley. Why Dosent hockey minnesota try to address this rapid decline of urban and suburban hockey ? Seems like there more interested in rich Edina kids paying 5000 dollar for land dry training.
 
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Also Burnsville co opted with apple valley. Why Dosent hockey minnesota try to address this rapid decline of urban and suburban hockey ? Seems like there more interested in rich Edina kids paying 5000 dollar for land dry training.
You seem to be obsessed with how things were. Times change. Hockey programs come and go. Bloomington may have folded but other programs have grown. It happens.

Why dump money into areas that aren’t interested in hockey? Hey, Arizona used to have a team. Why doesn’t the NHL keep putting money into that? Sometimes it’s time to pull the rip cord.
 
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The people interested in playing live elsewhere... it happens. Other programs have grown to replace then before the plug was ever pulled. It's a free country, let people do what they want. The sport is still healthy.
 
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Also Burnsville co opted with apple valley. Why Dosent hockey minnesota try to address this rapid decline of urban and suburban hockey ? Seems like there more interested in rich Edina kids paying 5000 dollar for land dry training.
Changing demographics is the main reason. High school hockey in St. Paul and Minneapolis has been downsized to Co-ops. Can’t see how how any entity can change the fact that you don’t have kids trying out.

Hockey is expensive. Family’s with the money to play in the city opt to play for private schools.
 

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Also Burnsville co opted with apple valley. Why Dosent hockey minnesota try to address this rapid decline of urban and suburban hockey ? Seems like there more interested in rich Edina kids paying 5000 dollar for land dry training.
It's just another symptom of much greater societal rot.
 

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Between equipment and ice-time, hockey has a built-in high price point. The culture has always been exclusionary and full of nepotism. Other sports are easier to learn, easier and cheaper to play, and thus can be played more people. It's hardly an indicator of generalized rot when there are cultural shifts away from one sport to other activities.

I can't comment except as a visitor on problems with the Twin Cities but many communities are seeing demographic shifts. Honestly, the lack of outdoor ice might be what "kills" hockey.
 

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Between equipment and ice-time, hockey has a built-in high price point. The culture has always been exclusionary and full of nepotism. Other sports are easier to learn, easier and cheaper to play, and thus can be played more people. It's hardly an indicator of generalized rot when there are cultural shifts away from one sport to other activities.

I can't comment except as a visitor on problems with the Twin Cities but many communities are seeing demographic shifts. Honestly, the lack of outdoor ice might be what "kills" hockey.
Kids seldom play hockey on outdoor ice. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's simply not an important factor in the health of hockey. I usually see some old dudes playing pickup, or some informal pond games, but the days of kids going to the outdoor rink all day are long gone.
 
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joelef

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Kids seldom play hockey on outdoor ice. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's simply not an important factor in the health of hockey. I usually see some old dudes playing pickup, or some informal pond games, but the days of kids going to the outdoor rink all day are long gone.
But but but all the hockey day in Minnesota propaganda told me that pond hockey is alive and well.
 

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But but but all the hockey day in Minnesota propaganda told me that pond hockey is alive and well.
It's pretty good in White Bear, but not so 10 minutes down McKnight. I live 10 minutes down McKnight, and the demographics here are not "hockey demographics". Of course, with income equality legislation they could be, but they're not right now.
 

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It's not extreme in the least. It's completely accurate. And four generations of my family have lived in the Cities so I know exactly what has happened to kill off hockey here.
OHHHHHH ok. Because YOUR family grew up in the cities everybody else's experiences are invalid. Got it.

Weird. This article seems to claim more players are participating in hockey every year:

Or you could take the numbers from USA Hockey:
 

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