Toggle sidebar

OT: MLB Thread 2025

JimmyG89 said:
I know the talk about Judge's start was warranted, but Alonso is nearly matching him. It's a dream start for a guy that waited a long time for his deal this winter.

Then the Vlad news on top of it, Cohen might have to open up the purse again this winter for Alonso. Maybe even the best thing going for him, Soto wants him on the team.

He won't stay this hot, but the questions about opting out are going to happen. Wonder if they go back to the table in season and rip up that option with a new extension.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I don't know, even if Alonso were to kill it this year I'd still be super hesitant to sign him to a long term commitment.

The one thing I will say is he seems to have changed his approach. Those breaking balls off the plate low and/or away, the ones he usually waves at, he has been super patient with and is laying off of them. He only has 5 K in 11 games which is phenomenal. If he can maintain that level of patience and he can also make it through the season without any noticeable decline in bat speed then I think you would have to consider at least doing 4 or 5 years for him. Any more than that though, just too scary.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JimmyG89 and Kane One
nyr2k2 said:
Yeah, I don't know, even if Alonso were to kill it this year I'd still be super hesitant to sign him to a long term commitment.

The one thing I will say is he seems to have changed his approach. Those breaking balls off the plate low and/or away, the ones he usually waves at, he has been super patient with and is laying off of them. He only has 5 K in 11 games which is phenomenal. If he can maintain that level of patience and he can also make it through the season without any noticeable decline in bat speed then I think you would have to consider at least doing 4 or 5 years for him. Any more than that though, just too scary.
Click to expand...
The ball jumps off his bat right now. Even his outs are mashed. Exit velocity in the 113s recently.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jack Hanson and nyr2k2
JimmyG89 said:
I know the talk about Judge's start was warranted, but Alonso is nearly matching him. It's a dream start for a guy that waited a long time for his deal this winter.

Then the Vlad news on top of it, Cohen might have to open up the purse again this winter for Alonso. Maybe even the best thing going for him, Soto wants him on the team.

He won't stay this hot, but the questions about opting out are going to happen. Wonder if they go back to the table in season and rip up that option with a new extension.
Click to expand...
When the Mets signed Soto & Alonso away from the Evil Empire, I knew that God is real. ;)
 
I also wanted to mention the hilarity of Gary and Keith absolutely savaging the Marlins' manager tonight. I mean I didn't know what the hell the guy was doing either, but to hear the announcers ragging on anyone that hard is just wonderful.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kane One
nyr2k2 said:
I also wanted to mention the hilarity of Gary and Keith absolutely savaging the Marlins' manager tonight. I mean I didn't know what the hell the guy was doing either, but to hear the announcers ragging on anyone that hard is just wonderful.
Click to expand...
The last time they went this hard, the Phillies fired Girardi and subsequently made the WS.

I don’t see the Marlins making the WS so all is good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nyr2k2
sbjnyc said:
The velocities are up today but they are not up 10 mph across the board. An interview with Seaver was on the pitching ninja video - he was saying that ryan threw hardest but not much harder than the rest of the rotation (referring to 69 mets). But again I don't think you're crediting the fact that the radar speeds from the 40+ years ago were significantly understating the actual velo. Greg maddox with his mid-high 80s fastball was probably really throwing 93-94 - plus in interviews he said he could throw harder (he did early in his career) but his coaches encouraged ball movement and changing speeds.

The approach to the game changed across the eras. Humans physiology did not evolve to throw better in the last 50 years. Players adapt to what they face. Gwynn faced maddox 100+ times and never struck out. If he faced harder throwers he'd have adapted to that. Judging him assuming he time travels 40 years is silly.

Your comment about how he would be impacted by coaches is a very good one. If his coaching changes his approach for more power then he'd probably wind up striking out a bit more. But if I ran a team there'd always be a spot open for a guy like 1980s/90s tony gwynn even if he bats 7th.
Click to expand...

Not going to respond to the majority of this because we're clearly not in agreement here and theres no point in furthering the discussion but honest question?

Do you really think Nolan Ryan, who was a good 60+ pounds lighter than Chapman and fraction of the pure athlete, threw as hard or harder than Chapman in his prime?

I don't think pitchers are throwing 10 MPH harder on average than they were in the 80's/90's (its closer to 6-7 MPH), but you're also massively, massively overstating the radar gun differential. It's not 5+ miles of difference. At best you're looking at 1, maybe 2 MPH. I watched Fastball too and it's an interesting doc, but there are a multitude of reasons why this kind of analysis should be seen with a skeptical eye if not flat out ignored and it's rather foolish to take it as gospel.
 
Soto isn't slumping exactly but isn't tearing the cover off the ball either. By his standards, you could call it a slump arguably. At the same time it shouldnt be at all surprising for Mets fans.
 
  • Like
Reactions: majordomo and mas0764
Pedro said he has several family members missing in the same accident that killed Dotel and Blanco.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: will1066
The Yankees annoyed me to the point of making me itch today and won anyway.

They pulled a Rangers.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

  • ... and 1 more.
    • Total: 5 (members: 4, guests: 1)

    Latest posts

    Ad

    Ad

    Top Bottom