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OG6ix

OG6ix

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I just saw this image from Sportico and the visual is astonishing. The vast majority of NHL and MLB teams are valued in the same neighbourhood with the outliers being the large market tentpole franchises. As a kid this was never even a possibility as a thought let alone a reality. I have to give Bettman and co credit for what they have done post lockout. The MLB just lost ESPN and all signs are pointing to a fight with the MLBPA for a salary cap. How much further can the NHL make up on the MLB? They won't come close to the Yankees dodgers etc but can the lower valued NHL teams gain ground on the lower valued MLB teams soon?

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GKJ said:
Amazing the Bulls are where they are since they haven’t hardly done anything since Jordan. A short spurt that got them a conference final
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They own half of their arena. That's what keeps them close to the Celtics who are a much bigger brand and have had more recent success, but are tenants in their arena.
Yes I know Chicago is a bigger metro area than Boston, but the Celtics market is all of New England (minus Fairfield County CT).
 
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The chart has the Celtics at about $5 billion, and they just sold for $6.1 billion. That's why I am always skeptical of these valuations. Even if you love football more than basketball, would you rather own the Titans or Celtics?
 
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Bonk said:
Interesting chart.

Is this more an indictment of MLB or a compliment to the NHL?
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We have always heard that Baseball's popularity is waning with the younger ADHD era. So it's quite possibly that baseball is declining due to that. Hockey is also starting to reap the rewards of US expansion (particularly southern/western expansion.
 
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aqib said:
But with the rising values of other sports teams that's the cheapest league to buy into.
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Not when your league is on Apple TV. MLS already had a perception problem with the label of being a retirement home for elite players, the USMNT is not growing their success from the 2000s in international play, and I suspect a lot of the league's buzz was due to expanding so rapidiky into new markets but those honeymoon periods don't last.

I know HARDCORE MLS fans that stopped bothering watching the league / their teams. It's a shame but new leagues have an uphill battle to climb. Soccer would be especially hard considering there are like 10+ leagues or so better than the MLS in the world. Americans want the best of the best in a sport.
 
OG6ix said:
Not when your league is on Apple TV. MLS already had a perception problem with the label of being a retirement home for elite players, the USMNT is not growing their success from the 2000s in international play, and I suspect a lot of the league's buzz was due to expanding so rapidiky into new markets but those honeymoon periods don't last.

I know HARDCORE MLS fans that stopped bothering watching the league / their teams. It's a shame but new leagues have an uphill battle to climb. Soccer would be especially hard considering there are like 10+ leagues or so better than the MLS in the world. Americans want the best of the best in a sport.
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With NHL teams costing over a billion if you want to be a team owner your only avenue is MLS
 
OG6ix said:
Not when your league is on Apple TV. MLS already had a perception problem with the label of being a retirement home for elite players, the USMNT is not growing their success from the 2000s in international play, and I suspect a lot of the league's buzz was due to expanding so rapidiky into new markets but those honeymoon periods don't last.

I know HARDCORE MLS fans that stopped bothering watching the league / their teams. It's a shame but new leagues have an uphill battle to climb. Soccer would be especially hard considering there are like 10+ leagues or so better than the MLS in the world. Americans want the best of the best in a sport.
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MLS is in the top 10 in many metrics. Despite being far down the pecking order in NA sports scene, they are generating more revenue than most soccer leagues around the world with valuations far exceeding them.
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Or ... not buy into sports.
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Owning sports teams is essentially an exclusive club membership that helps build out your network and influence. Some have made great money in the process but really in it to rub shoulders with those that they otherwise would never.
 
varsaku said:
MLS is in the top 10 in many metrics. Despite being far down the pecking order in NA sports scene, they are generating more revenue than most soccer leagues around the world with valuations far exceeding them.

Owning sports teams is essentially an exclusive club membership that helps build out your network and influence. Some have made great money in the process but really in it to rub shoulders with those that they otherwise would never.
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To be fair the MLS isn't looking like an appealing one at the moment. They have lost a TON of visibility
 
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