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I still don't get the trade for Buffalo. I get moving Mitts (or would have been better for them Cozens) for a defensemen... but for another LD and one that is probably going to be behind Dahlin AND Power just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Especially when they had yet another young LD locked up too. If they were going to trade one, at least get a RD.

Not that I'm complaining as Mitts is exactly what the Avs needed.
 

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I still don't get the trade for Buffalo. I get moving Mitts (or would have been better for them Cozens) for a defensemen... but for another LD and one that is probably going to be behind Dahlin AND Power just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Especially when they had yet another young LD locked up too. If they were going to trade one, at least get a RD.

Not that I'm complaining as Mitts is exactly what the Avs needed.
They took the best offer.
 
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I still don't get the trade for Buffalo. I get moving Mitts (or would have been better for them Cozens) for a defensemen... but for another LD and one that is probably going to be behind Dahlin AND Power just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Especially when they had yet another young LD locked up too. If they were going to trade one, at least get a RD.

Not that I'm complaining as Mitts is exactly what the Avs needed.
I'm in the same boat. Byram never made any sense for the Sabres. Byram is a good player, but he's more of what we already had, and he'll always be 3rd fiddle to Dahlin and Power.

What the Sabres needed was a top 4 right handed defensive specialist type.

Cozens starting off so terribly also makes the decision to commit to him over Mitts look even worse.
 

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Hopefully he's not just shooting the puck more because of the quite of his linemates so far this season. It would be a shame for him to go back to that style of play where he almost seems to defer passes to his wingers when they're guys like Nuke/Lehky/Drouin rather than get the puck on net
It wouldn't be the end of the world because he's also a world class passer as we've already seen a number of times this year.

But yeah, I am hoping he's seeing the results of shooting the puck more and it only keeps going.
 
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I feel like they took the "flashiest" offer, a highly-touted young defenseman and Stanley Cup winner taken fourth overall. Who knows what the best offer was but I imagine there was something that better suited their needs.
If they don't want to keep him they can always flip him, Byram has retained his value.
 

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I feel like they took the "flashiest" offer, a highly-touted young defenseman and Stanley Cup winner taken fourth overall. Who knows what the best offer was but I imagine there was something that better suited their needs.
He also really wanted to go to Buffalo. I think that's an important part for less popular teams.

They took the best offer.
I agree with this. It's a hard offer to beat.

I slightly preferred Cozens, but in our current situation I think Mitts works way better playing with scrubs. To me Cozens seemed more like the Landeskog type.
 

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If they don't want to keep him they can always flip him, Byram has retained his value.
I don't know about that... his value has been in decline for a while and the longer it goes, the less he's going to have that "#1D upside" that is fantasized about. I'd argue that his value has dropped tremendously since the Cup. If you traded him right then, you're talking about a player better than Mitts or at least Mitts and another good piece. Today, I don't think they could get a Mitts caliber player. Simply because it is looking less and less like the lack of opportunity and more and more that he is an erratic, yet talented defensemen.

This guy is a f***ing weapon lol god it is crazy how he quickly became one of my favourite players not just now but of all time. LOVE players with high IQ and high motors.
He simply plays hockey the way you want guys to play hockey. If he was slightly more athletically talented, he'd be a star... but I'm plenty happy with him in his role here.
 

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I don't know about that... his value has been in decline for a while and the longer it goes, the less he's going to have that "#1D upside" that is fantasized about. I'd argue that his value has dropped tremendously since the Cup. If you traded him right then, you're talking about a player better than Mitts or at least Mitts and another good piece. Today, I don't think they could get a Mitts caliber player. Simply because it is looking less and less like the lack of opportunity and more and more that he is an erratic, yet talented defensemen.
On the other hand the health concerns are pretty much gone now. If they put him on the market teams will line up.
 

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On the other hand the health concerns are pretty much gone now. If they put him on the market teams will line up.
I wouldn't say that... he's always one concussion away and literally one healthy season doesn't erase health questions. A lot of teams would take a chance on him, I don't disagree there. I disagree in the price they'd pay. It has been trending down for a while and will continue to until he starts to show signs of reaching his potential. The longer he goes as an erratic middle pairing defensemen with poor defense and inconsistent (and not impact level) offense, the closer he gets to the getting evaluated just as that. We're not there yet, but maybe a year or two away.
 

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On the other hand the health concerns are pretty much gone now. If they put him on the market teams will line up.
Unfortunately I'd argue one of the reasons he's managed to stay healthy for a while now is that he's playing a much softer game. Watching him at the tail end of his Avs tenure and now with the Sabres, dude just isn't winning puck battles and it's really hurting his game. The oft-injured version played with an almost reckless abandon. Now, I think he could strike a better balance, like, not taking on Drake Caiggula in a fight, but right now dude seems like kind of a perimeter player.
 

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I don't know about that... his value has been in decline for a while and the longer it goes, the less he's going to have that "#1D upside" that is fantasized about. I'd argue that his value has dropped tremendously since the Cup. If you traded him right then, you're talking about a player better than Mitts or at least Mitts and another good piece. Today, I don't think they could get a Mitts caliber player. Simply because it is looking less and less like the lack of opportunity and more and more that he is an erratic, yet talented defensemen.


He simply plays hockey the way you want guys to play hockey. If he was slightly more athletically talented, he'd be a star... but I'm plenty happy with him in his role here.

I wondered if he'd rise to the occasion as far as fitness level and what this team asks over the off-season. He seems to have.

If he was more athletically talented he'd be Buffalo's #1C right now.

Unfortunately I'd argue one of the reasons he's managed to stay healthy for a while now is that he's playing a much softer game. Watching him at the tail end of his Avs tenure and now with the Sabres, dude just isn't winning puck battles and it's really hurting his game. The oft-injured version played with an almost reckless abandon. Now, I think he could strike a better balance, like, not taking on Drake Caiggula in a fight, but right now dude seems like kind of a perimeter player.

Ouch
 

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I wondered if he'd rise to the occasion as far as fitness level and what this team asks over the off-season. He seems to have.

If he was more athletically talented he'd be Buffalo's #1C right now.



Ouch
I think it is less fitness more than just being fresh. He was asked to come over midseason from a team that didn't play with nearly as much tempo or require as much north/south effort as the Avs... and he had to adjust to that after playing 3/4 of a season. That's just not an easy thing to do.

Unfortunately I'd argue one of the reasons he's managed to stay healthy for a while now is that he's playing a much softer game. Watching him at the tail end of his Avs tenure and now with the Sabres, dude just isn't winning puck battles and it's really hurting his game. The oft-injured version played with an almost reckless abandon. Now, I think he could strike a better balance, like, not taking on Drake Caiggula in a fight, but right now dude seems like kind of a perimeter player.
Yeah... he still will get chippy and go for things, but he's not nearly as reckless as he was here. He needs to battle and play more physical.

IMO Byram envisions himself as a high end offensive guy who can put up 20g 80p. A guy who can rove and play a difference making game on that end. So he tries to play that sort of game, he just doesn't have the talent to be that guy. He needs to settle into a 1v1 shutdown defender who utilizes his excellent skating ability, stick, and physicality combo to shutdown players. While still being able to provide some offense and move the puck well. He has the talent to play that role at a top pairing level. That switch has to flip though.
 

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One of the biggest difference from Mitts this year to the rest of his career so far.... He's shooting the puck a f***ing lot more then ever before.


For his career he's averaging about 1.6 shots per game, in his stint with us last year he only averaged about ~1.3 shots per game. Through 10 games this year he's averaging 2.7 shots per game. Over 1 full shot per game more then his career average.

It's making a big difference. Sure his shooting percentage should come down, but even if it comes down to roughly ~14%, if he takes 220 shots(His current pace), he'd score 31 goals.

The playmaking has been evident for a couple years now, he's truly a magician with some of the passes he makes. But its the goal scoring that has changed already from previous years and its a big product of shooting the puck way more then in the past.

And I wonder how much of that is already a direct result of all the time he's spending around Mackinnon and working with Mack during and after practices.
Pierce just wait until Mitts get to work out with Nuke.
 
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I'm in the same boat. Byram never made any sense for the Sabres. Byram is a good player, but he's more of what we already had, and he'll always be 3rd fiddle to Dahlin and Power.

What the Sabres needed was a top 4 right handed defensive specialist type.

Cozens starting off so terribly also makes the decision to commit to him over Mitts look even worse.
Yeah, it is really strange why Buffalo traded their top point scoring player, a center and not someone else instead. Were those blokes not able to afford Mitts?
 

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Yeah, it is really strange why Buffalo traded their top point scoring player, a center and not someone else instead. Were those blokes not able to afford Mitts?
Most likely just a result of a poorly run organization.

Mitts was the Sabres best overall center and they traded the guy away for the #3 LD on the depth chart. Since then they been looking for a center and traded for McLeod.
 
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