Player Discussion Mitch Marner

[Kazparov]

If they wanted to trade Marner for assets, Shanahan should have traded him years ago.

As for offensive weapons, there is free agency to go along with a couple of young players.

Knies McDavid Nylander
Bertuzzi Matthews Cowan

McJesus isn't coming here.

 

[Confucius]

McJesus isn't coming here.

Exactly, he will be looking to win and he already has seen he can’t do it himself. I don’t see him staying in Edmonton either.

 

[TheShape]

Mitch settling for McDavid and Mackinnon AAV's... maybe he can get that in Columbus where offensive careers go to die.

Just making it clear that I don't agree with it, but the 1.5m annual raise I think is what his camp is going to aim for, similar to Matthews. I thought Marner's current contract was insane the second it was announced, he's an 8.5m player to me.

 

[ORRFForever]

If he walks/UFA, he will have to accept best offer or not play.

Isn't that what I said?

 

[ULF_55]

Isn't that what I said?

Yes.
The way I read it was that he could make someone pay what he wants.

Sorry, if my interpretation was incorrect.

He can't force anything.

He wouldn't be sitting out though.

 

[themilosh]

Regular season sizzle is great. Regular season is 7 months long, that is a long time to watch games and not have any sizzle. I’ve had a lot of feel good days over the 7 months because of sizzle.

Keep in mind I only can speak for myself and I do realize many don’t give a crap about the regular season. If I had the attitude regular season is some kind of farce I wouldn’t watch it. So I’m really at a loss for an explanation of why things are like they are.

In every sport there is a time where the heart rises to the top - typically when everything is on the line... soccer, golf, etc..

Guys like MM have difficulties playing in the playoffs bc every play must be earned. Every player gives that extra which speeds the game up, quickens the decision making, shortens the gaps. This forces MM and the like to have to work harder to match (they never learned, glided along on skill alone) but he doesn't have it in him - his whole game is predicated on fanciness which is great for 82 games of slightly less intense hockey , but when the heart players kick into overdrive that extra gear doesn't exist.

Bare in mind.. trickster softies is effective when you catch a different team every other night, but when you face a 7 game series the other team sees everything in game 1.

 

[ORRFForever]

Yes.
The way I read it was that he could make someone pay what he wants.

Sorry, if my interpretation was incorrect.

He can't force anything.

He wouldn't be sitting out though.

Fair enough. I could see him sitting out until someone pays him what he wants. And, yes, it could come back to haunt him.

If GM's got smart and no one offered him more that $9M, I don't see him playing until someone does.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Mitch settling for McDavid and Mackinnon AAV's... maybe he can get that in Columbus where offensive careers go to die.

You’d think Columbus would learn from the Gaudreau situation

I don’t think Marner touches 12 even on the open market. Maybe 11.5 max, which just makes nylanders contract so confusing

 

[Superstar]

Exactly, he will be looking to win and he already has seen he can’t do it himself. I don’t see him staying in Edmonton either.

McDavid and Matthews will be a heck of a one-two punch down the middle!

 

[colchar]

McDavid and Matthews will be a heck of a one-two punch down the middle!

With Johnny T as their third line center for $1 million a year.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

That All or Nothing really shows why Jumbo had not won despite being a top player for so long.

how so?

 

[Confucius]

In every sport there is a time where the heart rises to the top - typically when everything is on the line... soccer, golf, etc..

Guys like MM have difficulties playing in the playoffs bc every play must be earned. Every player gives that extra which speeds the game up, quickens the decision making, shortens the gaps. This forces MM and the like to have to work harder to match (they never learned, glided along on skill alone) but he doesn't have it in him - his whole game is predicated on fanciness which is great for 82 games of slightly less intense hockey , but when the heart players kick into overdrive that extra gear doesn't exist.

Bear in mind.. trickster softies is effective when you catch a different team every other night, but when you face a 7 game series the other team sees everything in game 1.

In every sport there is a time where the heart rises to the top - typically when everything is on the line... soccer, golf, etc..

Guys like MM have difficulties playing in the playoffs bc every play must be earned. Every player gives that extra which speeds the game up, quickens the decision making, shortens the gaps. This forces MM and the like to have to work harder to match (they never learned, glided along on skill alone) but he doesn't have it in him - his whole game is predicated on fanciness which is great for 82 games of slightly less intense hockey , but when the heart players kick into overdrive that extra gear doesn't exist.

Bare in mind.. trickster softies is effective when you catch a different team every other night, but when you face a 7 game series the other team sees everything in game 1.

I may well agree with what you say, all I’m saying is I enjoy winning most of the time during 7 long months of winter hockey. So doing well during the regular season is important to me. Sure the playoffs are a downer and they are more intense but that only lasts a few weeks and it’s over. Yes I’d like to win a Cup as well but at the expense of watching some boring ass game all winter I probably wouldn’t care anymore.

 

[Jojalu]

I think we'll know quickly whether the Leafs are ready for change or not if Shanahan is fired or not. If Shanahan is back then the joke still hasn't reached the punchline.

Hopefully it was an inside long con joke on all of us fans, and somehow they roar back to the finals!

 

[Nineteen67]

Hopefully it was an inside long con joke on all of us fans, and somehow they roar back to the finals!

I think they’re ready for the summer.

 

[HarryLime]

Lose on Tuesday and it has to be 100% certain that Shanny, Treliving and Keefe are all fired. The new management team will then decide what to do with the core.

Can't see the Gm fired after 1 season

 

[Nineteen67]

Can't see the Gm fired after 1 season

If there’s a new president then I think there’s a good chance the GM is replaced.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

There are 47 players who scored 30 goals this year. Giving Marner 12.5M to do the same is actual insanity.

 

[Byron Bitz]

He might want to disable his Instagram comments

 

[Craig Button]

He might want to disable his Instagram comments

How dumb are the comments from insane fans?

 

[Byron Bitz]

How dumb are the comments from insane fans?

Some might be fans from rival teams pretending to be Leaf fans to try and sour his already damaged relationship with the fan base because they want him to walk as a UFA in a year.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Some might be fans from rival teams pretending to be Leaf fans to try and sour his already damaged relationship with the fan base because they want him to walk as a UFA in a year.

That is some election interference type shit

 

[CincoHolio]

If there’s a new president then I think there’s a good chance the GM is replaced.

Aren't Tre's dad and Ed Rogers close buddies? Doubtful he's out.

 

[Thornbury]

I may well agree with what you say, all I’m saying is I enjoy winning most of the time during 7 long months of winter hockey. So doing well during the regular season is important to me. Sure the playoffs are a downer and they are more intense but that only lasts a few weeks and it’s over. Yes I’d like to win a Cup as well but at the expense of watching some boring ass game all winter I probably wouldn’t care anymore.

You're absolutely right. Any fan who says regular season success is unimportant didn't follow the Leafs in the lost decade of the 80s.

 

[francis246]

Right, so Nylander was telling a player that never played Junior this isn't f***ing Junior and then the guy he wasn't talking to had a tantrum and threw his gloves. Then after the game, the player he wasn't talking to was interviewed about the incident.

You can't possibly believe that.

Matthews literally played in the USHL which is juniors. It’s a direct competitor of the CHL as the American junior league. Think before you speak. People on Twitter literally said Matthews was the one bitching for 5 minutes. Marner didn’t say a word during the whole exchange. You saw a 30 second clip where we don’t even see who Nylander was talking to. Compared to people who were sitting right behind the bench and are giving a first hand account of what happen. Matthews and Nylander were going at it, with Nylander telling Matthews to shoot the puck. Marner on that PP was net front, didn’t even have the puck at all. Marner and Bertuzzi were in the middle. Marner throwing his gloves seemed to be more of a response to realizing the team is falling apart not necessarily him getting bitched out.

Additionally Matthews didn’t even take post game interviews because he’s sick? So what’s your point? Marner was asked because he was in the middle and the only one of the three made available. If they other two were available they would have been asked as well.

 

[ULF_55]

Right, so Nylander was telling a player that never played Junior this isn't f***ing Junior and then the guy he wasn't talking to had a tantrum and threw his gloves. Then after the game, the player he wasn't talking to was interviewed about the incident.

You can't possibly believe that.

Did we get the entire conversation, because yes, marner came up through junior hockey. Matthews and Nylander both played men's hockey before being drafted.

All under a lot of stress.

I wonder if any of the three are 100%, marner ankle, Matthews sick, Nylander coming off illness.